Wiring help please!!!!


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Old 11-05-03, 12:08 PM
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Wiring help please!!!!

This is sort of a continuation to an earlier post regarding a project Im working on. I added a pull string light to my pantry and planned on tapping into a downstairs receptacle for power. I just ran the wire through the walls to the crawlspace and hooked up the wiring to the light. Only I just noticed something that I'm not completely sure of and I need some help.

The wire that the clerk at Home Depot said I should buy for the new light was 14/2. Only, I just noticed that the receptacle that I need to tap is connected with #12 wire and is controlled at the breaker by a 20amp switch. So, does this mean that the wire I bought and ran needs to be taken out and replaced with #12? Final point of confusion, the outlet I am tapping into says its a 15 amp. What gives?

If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I'm at a stand still and would like to get everything working and clean up before the wife gets home.

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Old 11-05-03, 12:14 PM
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You have to use number 12 wire on any circuit protected with a 20A breaker. The 15A devices like the recept are fine. It means that that type recept is designed to only accept a 15A plug.
 
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Old 11-05-03, 12:16 PM
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When more than a single outlet (receptacle) is on a 20A circuit breaker, the receptacles themselves may be rated at 15A.
The wire must be rated to support the breaker size, #12 minimum for a 20A breaker.
 
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Old 11-05-03, 12:28 PM
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Most 20-amp residential circuits cannot be tapped into at all for lighting. That's because 20-amp circuits are normally only installed to serve pantries, kitchens, dining rooms, bathrooms, and laundry areas. You cannot add lighting to any of these. I know we steered you away from adding lighting to the pantry receptacle circuit, but perhaps we steered you to another prohibited circuit. Did we?
 
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Old 11-05-03, 02:59 PM
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I cant tap into the downstairs receptacle on the 20 amp circuit? Now Im stuck. I dont know where else I can get power from. The outlet in the pantry is on a 20 amp circuit as are the downstairs outlets. Can anyone confirm whether or not I can proceed in tapping power for the light from a downstairs recept. on a 20 amp line? I just bought 12 gauge wire and reran in and am about to hook it up. Can anyone clarify whether or not I can proceed? Im all out of options I think. Theres no other conveniet power sources that I can access to power this light.

Please help!
 
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Old 11-05-03, 04:16 PM
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If the circuit that you are tapping into is 20 amp 120volt and serves only general purpose receptacles or lighting then you are O.K. . The circuits that you would not be allowed to tap are the 20 amp 120volt kitchen small appliance circuits, laundry circuit, or bathroom receptacle circuits.
 
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Old 11-05-03, 05:17 PM
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Tex, thanks! Yes, the 20 amp circuit controls general outlets in my downstairs living room (wall outlets). I just hooked everything up and all works great. My only other question is grounding. For some reason, I could not locate a grounding screw on the receptacle box that I tapped into. Its a metal box. So, what I did was pigtail the ground wires from the two connections and connect them to the ground screw of the receptacle. Is this okay? As for the light fixture, I connected the ground wire to the ground screw on the bracket that came with the fixture.

This might be a no brainer project for many of you pros here but being my first real electrical project, I'm pretty happy!

bubba
 
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Old 11-05-03, 05:26 PM
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There should be a 10-32 tapped hole in the back of the metal box for attaching a bonding jumper to the box. There are also clips made that slip on the edge of the box after the ground wire is inserted through them.
 
 

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