#12 Wire!!!!!

Old 01-20-04, 08:25 PM
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#12 Wire!!!!!

Wow... what is the trick to getting #12 wire in a box!

I am just installing a single 220V outlet in a standard surface box (2-1/2 x 4 x 2-1/8). Can't seem too do it... 2-wires + ground + device. Is there some trick to it? Don't leave as much service loop? I've wired my whole house but can't seem to work with #12 wire in a surface box, Very frustrating. The ground wire in particular seems difficult. Am I supposed to crush the hell out of it? Am worried that the side wires will come loose under the force.

The wire (it is accordianed) but it very unforgiven. Any ideas?
Old 01-20-04, 08:34 PM
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Use a bigger box.
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Good advice. When I first started DIYing, I used to count the number of wires a box would contain and go by the Code for the size of boxes I'd need. Now I don't bother - I always buy the largest boxes I can find. The price differential isn't great and it makes things a lot easier.
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I agree with going with the larger boxes except on exterior walls. I arrange my layout to minimize the number of wires run to boxes on exterior walls. And I do not run anything horizontal in an exterior wall if at all possible.

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