Is it considered an upgrade in kitchen?


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Old 05-05-05, 10:23 AM
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Is it considered an upgrade in kitchen?

If I switch the location of the frig with an electric oven I must move the power box for oven to new location. Of course I will use j-box if needed and run new wires to new location. This is a dedicated 220V circuit for the oven. Is it considered an upgrade in kitchen? If it is then do I need to upgrade all other circuits in kitchen to meet the codes? Thx.
 
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Old 05-05-05, 10:37 AM
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This is probably not considered an upgrade to the kitchen.

However, if you run a circuit for the refrigerator you will need to make it up to code.

More importantly, you will probably have to make the new run for the stove up to code, which means a four wire circuit. The existing circuit may only be three wire, which is no longer allowed for new installations.
 
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Old 05-05-05, 12:11 PM
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The frig was on its own circuit. I just moved the outlet. Is this OK?

Generally, I put in new kitchen cabinets, rearranged oven, and frig as in the first question. Just moved the receptacle for frig and box for oven. Does it require up-to-date circuits for kitchen?
 
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Old 05-05-05, 12:42 PM
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I might have to change my answer.

New cabinet, new countertop might mean you need to bring the electrical up to code. It depends on the inspector. Do the cabinets have the same footprint, or did you change that?
 
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Do the cabinets have the same footprint, or did you change that?
No. I added a peninsula. Right after the kitchen guys finished his job I learned that I missed a receptacle for that peninsula. I am on the way to add that receptacle using a new separate 20A circuit. I didn't know at first place I need an electrician to look at the circuit first and do any needed electrical job before the cabinets installed. The kitchen guys told me he would handle everything. After new receptacle for the peninsula installed I will have 3 20A circuit for kitchen, but the 220V box for cooktop has only 3 wires so I am worried about this. The cooktop I have is a Maytag MEC5536BAW. This is from installation guide: A three-wire, single phase, A.C. 120/240 volt 60 cycle electrical system (properly circuit protected to meet Local Codes of NFPA No. 70) must be provided. So I am confused if the circuit for cooktop is in the codes. I already had an electrician looked at the oven and cooktop and he said they were fine. I really need your advice on this.

Also anyone can brief me what is in the National Electrical Code, NFPA No. 70?

Thanks.
 
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The 3-wire circuit for the range would be okay if you didn't want to move it. By moving it, you are required to upgrade it to the newer 4-wire circuit.

It's really a code technicality. The existing installation is okay, because it met code when it was installed. Now that you want to re-install it, you have to meet today's code.
 
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It's really a code technicality. The existing installation is okay, because it met code when it was installed. Now that you want to re-install it, you have to meet today's code.
I am not clear with the word install and re-install. If I buy another cooktop with same spec requiring 3 wire 120/220V to replace the current one, am I required to upgrade the circuit?
 
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The cooktop isn't the issue, it's the receptacle you plug the cooktop into. If you leave the receptacle the way that is originally was, then it's okay. If you move the receptacle, then it needs to be upgraded to 4-wire.
 
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Got it.
Thanks.
 
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Old 05-05-05, 08:03 PM
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code schmode

we see that the code is a mere blueprint, you can't legislate safety. If we were serious about safety, all houses before 1980 or so would be required to be rewired....they are fire traps !!!!!!!!! Mark











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