switch to outlets question

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Old 01-28-06, 11:18 PM
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switch to outlets question

Hello,

Right now, our bedroom does not have an overhead light. The switch in the room controls the bootom receptacle of the outles in the room. What I would like to have is an overhead light in the room, and have all the outlets function normally without having to turn on the switch.

The switch has a white and black and ground wire goung to the first outlet. The first outlet has white, black, and red tied to the wires going to the switch. From there the rest of the outlets all have the white, black, and red wires.

Is it possible to get the room wired the way I want, and what would that entail?

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Old 01-29-06, 12:38 AM
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our bedroom does not have an overhead light.
You'll need one.



> The switch has a white and black and ground wire goung to the first outlet.
Sounds like an improperly marked switch leg.
Do you mean that there is white on one screw and black on the other screw on the switch?
Can you provide a photo?



> The first outlet has white, black, and red tied to the wires going
> to the switch.
I don't understand.
I know what "red tide" is.
What is "red tied"?
You did not mention any red wire going to the switch.

Can you provide a photo?

Otherwise, I expect that there is a black wire coming in from below or above that connects to the white wire going to the switch.


If not, then you did not mean that there is a white wire on the switch.
So you need to clear this up.


> From there the rest of the outlets all have the white, black, and red wires.
That is fine.



> Is it possible to get the room wired the way I want?
Certainly.


> and what would that entail?
You have to get wire from the switch to the light and install a box for the light in the ceiling. If you can access the attic above, so much the better.

The rest is just a matter of changing a few connections.
But you need to either explain accurately what you have or provide clear pictures that show exactly what you have. Don't leave out any details about black, white, or red wires.
You must show or describe precisely which connects to which and goes where.
 
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Old 01-29-06, 04:35 AM
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I see what you mean.
You have a 3-wire between all the receptacles, and a 2-wire switch loop from the first receptacle to the switch.
We did not always have to re-mark the white wire and it is very common to see a white and black on a switch, especially in this instance.

Like Bol said, you need to run a wire, same guage as the circuit, from the switch to the light. I'd use a 3-wire (eg: 14/3) in case you ever decide to install a fan (I never run 2-wire to ceiling lights anymore). Then at the switch box connect the whites together and fold them in. Cap off the red and fold it in. Splice the grounds with a tail for the device. Which leaves you with two blacks to go on the switch.

At the receptacle you'll need to pigtail all the wires with short leads to the device.
Splice ALL the whites to a tail.
Splice all the grounds with a tail.
Splice ALL the blacks AND the red, to a tail.
These three tails will go to the receptacle in typical fashion. Black to gold, white to silver, ground to green.

Understand???
 
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Old 02-04-06, 04:44 PM
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Hey Pete,

Thanks for the info. I wired it up like you explained...it works great.

 
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Old 02-04-06, 05:10 PM
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Very good! Glad you got it to work, and thanks for the feedback.
 
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