wire staple removal

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Old 07-01-06, 04:08 PM
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wire staple removal

Need some advice please...

I have a ceiling fan that I want to move approx 8 feet from its current position. It is wired to a light switch on the other end. If possible I want to continue using the wall switch. I plan to move the fan 8 feet back toward the switch.

The wire goes from the switch up to the ceiling, then through holes that have been drilled in the joists, then runs lengthwise down the last joist to the current location. I figure I should be able to pull the wire back through the joist holes, and run it down the joist closest to the new location.

The problem is, between the hole in the last joist (where it bends 90 degrees and runs to the current location) and the hole where the fan was, the wire is stapled to the joist ( as I am sure it should be ). I put a mirror and a flashlight up to the hole in the ceiling after I took the fan down, that is how I know it's there.
I can not pull the wire back through the other joists unless I get that staple out.
I am wondering how to get it out without cutting another hole in my ceiling to access it. We have a textured ceiling, so I really dont want to have to mess it up any more than I have to. The staple is about 4 feet down the joist from the box where the fan was.

Any suggestions as to how I might get that staple out without cutting another hole in the ceiling would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Max
 
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Old 07-01-06, 06:48 PM
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The orange shows the path of the wire. o is where the fan is now and n is where I want to move it to. The staple is about half way down the vertical orange length.

I want to move the fan 8 feet straight back from o to n, so the wire thru that joist is 6 feet away from where I want. I was thinking if there was some way to either remove the staple or cut the wire at the staple, I can cut the new hole at n and fish it through. But I am not sure if I can achieve that. Whatever I do, I am hoping to do it from where o is, and not have to damage the ceiling any more than I have to.

Hope that gives a clearer picture of what I am dealing with. I have tried putting a metal bar into the hole to see if I can make contact with the staple and then give it a whack with a hammer to try to loosen it, but I have not had much success, as the view is limited. I can not see the staple by looking into the hole, I have to face away from it and use a mirror and a flashlight to even see the actual staple. Trying to guide a metal bar with one hand while looking through a backwards view in a mirror is not very efficient.

Anyone with any bright ideas, I am listening....
 
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Old 07-01-06, 07:10 PM
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I assume you do not have access (attic) above this ceiling, correct?

I really doubt that you would be able to snag the cable from the new hole and pull it back through the existing joist holes even if you were successful in cutting either the wire or the staple, such things rarely happen in the real world.

I think that your only course of action is going to involve putting a few holes in your ceiling.

Sorry.
 
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Old 07-02-06, 02:01 PM
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Excellent ASCII drawing, thank you. I understood immediately what you were trying to do.

Dang, there's got to be a way if you've only got one staple to worry about. What about a cold chisel on a long extension?

If you were able to cut the NM on the other side of the staple, instead of the staple itself, would it still be long enough to get to the new box. Looks like it should, if that were an easier possibility.

I'll keep thinking.
 
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Old 07-02-06, 02:07 PM
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No Furd, the fan is in the basement, so the space I am working in is between the basement ceiling and the upper storey floor.

Thanks for the compliment Mac, I posted the same question on another forum, and I thought I was clear in my initial explanation, but someone read it all wrong so I put the drawing there.

After that, I figured I might as well put it here too. Yes, if I can cut the wire there is plenty of length. It's just a matter of how do I cut it....

I will see if I have anything I can attach to my chisel and try it...thanks.
 

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Old 07-02-06, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MAC702
Dang, there's got to be a way if you've only got one staple to worry about. What about a cold chisel on a long extension?
Well, as previously mentioned, I had tried putting a metal bar into the hole to see if I could make contact with the staple and then give it a whack with a hammer to try to loosen it. That bar was in fact a 4 ft length of aluminum pipe. I had put a slight bend into it to reach the staple properly.

My cold chisel happened to be exectly the same diameter as the inside diameter of the pipe.

I put it in, whacked it a few dozen times, and VOILA, done deal !!!

Thanks so much for the suggestion. If anyone runs into the same situation in the future, hopefully they will visit this site and see your solution.

Thanks again!!
 
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Old 07-02-06, 10:27 PM
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Give me your address to send the bill...
 
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Sorry dude no patent infrindgement here. You freely volunteered the design and use of said tool.

Don't worry though, no good deed goes unpunished.
 
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Old 07-02-06, 11:46 PM
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Give me your address to send the bill...
You don't need my address, I have yours.

The check is in the mail...LOL
 
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