Proper dimmer for Under Cabinet lights

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Old 09-17-06, 07:14 AM
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Proper dimmer for Under Cabinet lights

Installing under cabinet lights (Quoisel) believed to be Xenon but not identified as such in the literature or tech sheets. Also adding a dimmer but instructions included with the dimmer say not to use with electronic transformers. THe transformers are clearly marked as electronic. Returning it to the lighting store where it was purchased they sent me home with a "better" solution. Those instructions also said not to use it in this application. Returned to the store and they were stumped. Of the hundreds of dimmers in stock - none were for Electronic Low Voltage ELV applications - and they weren't even familiar with the term. These are the lighting specialists.

Next stop - the Big Boxes. Again - hundreds of transformers but nothing marked ELV.

The light units merely state "Dimmable" but don't offer any caveats about the type of dimmer to use.

Is it likely that so many of these lighting units are sold but nobody carries proper dimmers for them? Should I keep searching for an ELV dimmer?

Second question. These are hard wired units and generally I would run 14-2 Romex. I have some metal jacketed 14-2 left from a radiant tile application that would be a breeze to string but it is stranded rather than solid conductor. Any reason not to use this?
 
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Old 09-17-06, 07:39 AM
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I am working on a google of your light fixture.

I found a Quoizel lighting. Is that the correct mfg?
What is the part number of the fixture?
 
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Old 09-17-06, 09:17 AM
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Part Number is UC 1140SS - the last 2 numbers are merely the length - I'm using 3 lengths UC1108 and UC 1124 and UC1140. Only 180 watts total so no big load but don't want to fry the transformer with incorrect dimmer.
 
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Old 09-17-06, 09:44 AM
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C5Bud,
The mfg web site is about as useless as any I have seen. It does give links to documents that are not available at this time.

Near as I can tell, by dimmable, they mean by using the Hi/low/off switch on the fixture.

I would not use a standard dimmmer on this as you are likely to either burn up the dimmer or lightfixture. I mean real flames, not just the smoke comming out.

I would contact the mfg or one of thier sales reps for better instructions.

As for question 2. What type of cable is that you have. The fact that it is stranded does not matter. The question is if the wire is rated to be used for this application, and if it has the proper grounding ability.

On a side note, I would not call the people at a big box store experts in anything but marketling and sellling products. Many a time I have been in there listening to one of those supposed experts misguilding a customer. A couple times I have been so put off by the advice that I felt compelled to chime in with acurate answers.
 
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Old 09-17-06, 10:08 AM
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Thanks for the input. I was going to call Quoisel next week until I read your reply again. Hi - Lo - Off - Great pick up! That's close enough for the Bride. I'll simply hard wire and be done with it.

My reference to specialists was at the lighting store - all they sell is lighting - including the Quoisels which they have on a dimmer in their display. One would think they would know how they did it, or at least what's recommended. Blank Stares.

While there is always the chance of getting good advice in a Big Box, the odds are against it, too many SKU's. The lighting "expert" may have been working the garden shop that day. I didn't ask them for assistance, only looked for a ELV dimmer.

Again, Thank You.
 
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Old 09-17-06, 10:17 AM
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Hey, make them tear apart thier display and get the part number off of the dimmer.
 
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