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Old 12-26-06, 03:32 PM
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pool pump circuit

howdy, can uf wire be ran underground and out to an above ground pool pump? thought i seen something in code book that says it can not. then what do ya do? ...all thwn wire in pvc conduit..? seems like a waist?... any good sites for conductor fill tables? thnaks. marty
 
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Old 12-26-06, 04:27 PM
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Since when can't UF be run outside?!
 
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Old 12-26-06, 05:53 PM
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The wiring method cannot be uf-b if ran outside of a dwelling to a pool pump.The cable or conduit must contain an insulated copper equipment grounding conductor not smaller than 12 awg. You can however use uf or nm inside the dwelling then transition to pvc conduit and THWN wire at a jb when the run exits the house to the outside.

If the pool pump is cord and plug it must be gfci protected.

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Old 12-26-06, 06:18 PM
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NEC QUOTE:
"680.21(A)(1)
The branch circuits for pool-associated motors shall be installed in rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, rigid nonmetallic conduit, or Type MC cable listed for the location. Other wiring methods and materials shall be permitted in specific locations or applications as covered in this section. Any wiring method employed shall contain an insulated copper equipment grounding conductor sized in accordance with 250.122 but not smaller than 12 AWG."


Me:
The "other wiring" methods mentioned are the interior sections of wiring in a dwelling as Roger stated.
 
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GFCI- Protected. No matter the connection type.

Don't forget the #8 solid bond and the required receptacle.

And always remember, your family and friends will use it.

DO IT CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuff' said (I hope)
 
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Old 12-26-06, 09:24 PM
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"GFCI- Protected. No matter the connection type."

NO, only cord and plug connected pump motors require GFI protection by 2005 code.
Of course protection any pool motor is not a bad idea.
 
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Old 12-26-06, 10:03 PM
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I believe 680.21(B) may possibly allow uf-b to be ran to a grounded receptacle that is 5 ft but less than 10 feet from the pool wall serving a cord and plug pool pump. This is only possible if the pool pump is double insulated and no bonding lug is located on that pool pump.

I read this section of code to state that if the pump is double insulated then any wiring method of chapter three may be used that is suitable for the location.

Speedy...Lectriclee.... you guys read this the same??

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Hi,
I read this as... No.

For this reason.
680.21(A)(1) states the ground shall be insulated. Clearly states the types of conduits to be used.

680.21(b) (double insulated)States that you can use any method aproved in chapter 3,
And then sends you to 680.22(B)(4), and explains you can fore go the bond.

I feel that 680.21(A)(1) overides the others.

For pools.
 
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