New GFCI Outlet in old bathroom 1966
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New GFCI Outlet in old bathroom 1966
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I have an old bathroom. Two switches for two lights in bathroom. Want to add exhaust fan above shower. Want an outlet. Using an outlet on the opposite of bathroom wall.
All 15 amp.
Need at least a 15 amp GFCI. I want to, of course feed that GFCI to the switch for the fan/light combo to protect it. I know I can feed the power from the bedroom outlet to the gfci, it has two reds, and a ground. (not code?) It would not be a dedicated GFCI, so can I actually do this? I could ground the switch box which is metal and run that ground to the new GFCI recepticle (using deep remodel box) I have one hot from each of the light fixtures to the switches. (one is actually orange and one yellow, both are hot. Then I have a red coming to the bottom screw (both red) and the neutrals are tied together (both directions). It looks like the outlet from the other side of wall actually feeds the switches in the bathroom. Help.
I have an old bathroom. Two switches for two lights in bathroom. Want to add exhaust fan above shower. Want an outlet. Using an outlet on the opposite of bathroom wall.
All 15 amp.
Need at least a 15 amp GFCI. I want to, of course feed that GFCI to the switch for the fan/light combo to protect it. I know I can feed the power from the bedroom outlet to the gfci, it has two reds, and a ground. (not code?) It would not be a dedicated GFCI, so can I actually do this? I could ground the switch box which is metal and run that ground to the new GFCI recepticle (using deep remodel box) I have one hot from each of the light fixtures to the switches. (one is actually orange and one yellow, both are hot. Then I have a red coming to the bottom screw (both red) and the neutrals are tied together (both directions). It looks like the outlet from the other side of wall actually feeds the switches in the bathroom. Help.
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No can do.
A bathroom needs a 20 amp circuit for a new install. Run a new line from your panel, 12 gage NM-B cable (if NM-B allowed where you live) and a 20 amp breaker.
A bathroom needs a 20 amp circuit for a new install. Run a new line from your panel, 12 gage NM-B cable (if NM-B allowed where you live) and a 20 amp breaker.
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Bummer Okay...new 20 amp
I can't use the bathroom light circuits eh? Bummer
I have room the the panel, so I will have to run it thru two floors to get there. Not looking forward to doing that. But, if I do, I can fish tape thru the wall, but will have to open the second floor wall to drill thru the stud and up.
Now, I have two GFCI's I want to put on the outside. I have room with the circuit to tie them into exisiting circuits. They will be only for xmas lights, 15 amp okay?
I have room the the panel, so I will have to run it thru two floors to get there. Not looking forward to doing that. But, if I do, I can fish tape thru the wall, but will have to open the second floor wall to drill thru the stud and up.
Now, I have two GFCI's I want to put on the outside. I have room with the circuit to tie them into exisiting circuits. They will be only for xmas lights, 15 amp okay?
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15 amp circuits is okay for outside. Just be sure that the circuit can be extended to include them. This means NOT a kitchen receptacle circuit, not a dining room receptacle circuit, not a laundry room receptacle circuit, and as we just discussed, not a bathroom receptacle circuit. Further, make sure that the circuit is NOT already heavily loaded.,
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Thanks
No, the GFCI's will not be in any of the locations you brought up, and I am mapping the circuits out already. One will be an outlet from the garage, and one will be one from the family room which is not tied into the laundry room or any of the things you have listed.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
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One will be an outlet from the garage,
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Yep, thought of that already. I appreciated your help on this. A lot!!! I guess I was just hoping to have that grandfather clause for the bathroom, but when I think of it, I am going to do it, might as well just do it with the 20 amp.
Now that I have a fan/light above the shower, I have to also have that GFCI protected. It states that I have to have a dedicated 20 amp outlet (gfci) in the bathroom. If that exhaust fan/light is now 15 amp, if I changed it to 20 amp (which it says I can) and as long as there is nothing else wired, can I run wires off the load side of that outlet to the switch for the exhaust fan/light and have that protected?
Power from the existing light above the shower is not currently gfci and it runs to the existing switch, then to power.
Now that I have a fan/light above the shower, I have to also have that GFCI protected. It states that I have to have a dedicated 20 amp outlet (gfci) in the bathroom. If that exhaust fan/light is now 15 amp, if I changed it to 20 amp (which it says I can) and as long as there is nothing else wired, can I run wires off the load side of that outlet to the switch for the exhaust fan/light and have that protected?
Power from the existing light above the shower is not currently gfci and it runs to the existing switch, then to power.