Celing Fan Lighting Switch Wiring

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Old 02-11-08, 11:49 AM
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Celing Fan Lighting Switch Wiring

I want to install a ceiling fan switch that independently controls both the fan and lighting. The pre existing switch was a 2 wire fan control. My problem is how to hook up a 3 wire fan/lighting switch with the existing wiring. Coming into the receptacle are 3 cables (please se the image below). Each of the the 3 cables have the white wire joined together. Two of the cables have a black wire joined together with a third free black wire that was fed into the fan control. The other black wire came from another cable. How can the fan/lighting switch be wired? Thanks much.

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Old 02-11-08, 12:04 PM
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Although "Independent" may not be possible, please correct the "PIC LINK".

This situation would require , in essence , , Two separate switches, which you may not have wiring existing to accomplish. There may be alternatives, but until we know more about "What is Where" , This cant be determined.
 
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Old 02-11-08, 12:08 PM
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Sorry, Error on my end......

Got the pic, and you are a cable short , to do what you wish.

You would need another cable, across either the light, or fan terminals, to control them separately.
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Ok, I'll be ok in the morning...Didnt see the third cable.....

Do you have a switch already?--

Un-nut the black wires...find the "LIVE ONE"....
the existing Free wire goes back onto the switch
One of the other "Nutted" blacks will go to the switch
The live wire will feed the switch.
Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Old 02-11-08, 12:23 PM
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Ok, I'll be ok in the morning...Didnt see the third cable.....
Go back to bed, deizel, I think you were right the first time. He is a wire short.

I'm guessing the cable entering from the upper right go to the fan/light. The other two are feed and continuation to somewhere else. I can't imagine someone running two different cables to a fan/light.

Chuck-

To verify this, look in the ceiling fixture and see that there is only one cable up there. If so your only option is to run new 3-conductor wire. Actually it's even easier than that: Previously, if either the fan or the light could be pull-chained on regardless of switch position then you are ok. Otherwise (and the most likely case) you will need to run new wire.
 
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Guys,
Thanks but I'm still a little confused. Coming out of the ceiling fan is 1 cable with a black and white wire. The pre existing fan control turmed on both fan and dimmed the light. I am wanting to add one switch that has a fan and a light control. I was thinking a fourth white wire be joined to the other three whites and be used to join the other two blacks into the switch. What does one think?
Chuck
 
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Old 02-11-08, 04:13 PM
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Coming out of the ceiling fan is 1 cable with a black and white wire.
This is from the fan itself. What (Or how many) cables are in the ceiling box where the fan mounts?

If core is correct , which I believe he is, The third cable runs to another location beyond the switch box. the only way to verify this is to know what is in the ceiling box.

I was thinking a fourth white wire be joined to the other three whites and be used to join the other two blacks into the switch. What does one think?
Actually yes, but that extra wire would need to run from the fan to the switch. if you only have white and black on the fan, some internal changes must be made to the fan wiring.

Did the original switch control fan speed and dim the light at the same time? (The faster the fan, the brighter the light?)
 
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Old 02-11-08, 06:10 PM
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Coming out of the ceiling fan is 1 cable with a black and white wire.
Chuck, if these are the only wires in the ceiling box itself, you are out of luck.

You should not have had a dimmer there in the first place if I understand what was there. You can either put a regular on/off switch on that box or run some new wire. If you do in fact want to run the wire then you'll need 12-3 or 14-3 depening on what's in the wall already.
 
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