Need HELP wiring in new ceiling fan

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Old 07-19-08, 01:58 PM
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Need HELP wiring in new ceiling fan

Im wiring in a ceiling fan to a new box in ceiling.

Ran 14-3 wire from ceiling box to switch that currently operates half an outlet below

Switch began with graound to ground one white on top and one black connect on bottom of switch

Outlet has 3 sets of wires coming in. two black tied together and attach to the screw on top of out let in the same pole as the other black is inserted in the back and two whites are on the oposite side one top and one bottom. Third white has black tape around end and has been connected to the bottom of the outlet below the black .

OK here is what im thinkin

at switch attach whites together put black on switch one top one bottom. Red on opposite side top to control the light.

at oulet replace and not sure what to do with the wires. HELP PLEASE
 
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Old 07-19-08, 02:28 PM
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What you have at the switch is called a "switch loop". The white wire is bringing power to the switch and the black is a switched hot back to the receptacle. You do not have the required neutral at the switch box.

You will need to find another source for your power.

Are you adding a light kit to this fan? This may allow you to disable the switched receptacle and use the wiring already in place.
 
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YES it has lights

Yes it has lights on the fan
 
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You need to rewire the receptacle to be continuously hot. Because the receptacle is only half-switched, this will be much easier if you buy a new receptacle and throw the existing one away. This is recommended because the existing receptacle has been permanently altered to be half-switched. It is possible to reuse the existing receptacle, but it just makes the project more complicated so I recommend against it.

So take out the old receptacle and throw it away. Disconnect all the wires in the box (except the grounding wires). Connect the existing grounding pigtail to the green screw on the new receptacle. Connect all three black wires in the box to a short segment of black wire (a "pigtail") which you will connect to either one of the two brass-colored screws. Remove the black tape from the one white wire that has it. Then connect all three white wires to a white pigtail, which you will connect to either one of the silver screws.

Now go back to the switch box. Remove the white wire from the switch. You have rewired to make the white wire a neutral, and neutrals are not connected to switches. If this white wire also has black tape, remove that too.

Before we go farther, we need some more information from you. When you say 14-3, do you mean a black/red/white/bare cable, or a black/white/bare cable? Do you intend to have one switch to control both the fan and its light, or two switches (one for each)? If two, do you intend to use a duplex switch in the existing box, or two separate switches in a larger box? Or does the fan come with a special wall control? Or does the fan come with a hand-held remote control and do you intend to use it? Answer these questions and we will complete the instructions.
 
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I replace the old receptical, and now have my switch controling the fan and light (on the fan).

14-3 white, black and red plus ground.

I would like to set up the light on the switch by its self and have the fan operated with the pull chain.

I also have a remote that I can hook up to the fan..(pain to put up the fan with the remote box in hte mix)
 
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Old 07-19-08, 06:27 PM
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Splice the black from the receptacle and splice it to the black going to the fan. Add a short pigtail to these to feed the switch and connect to one of the brass screws on the switch. Connect the red from the 3 wire cable to the other brass terminal on the switch. This is the switched hot. Connect the fan black to the ceiling black. Connect the light kit wire, usually black with a white stripe or a blue wire, to the ceiling red.

Leave the whites and ground connected as they are.

The switch will now operate the light kit on the fan.
 
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Depending on exactly what kind and brand of remote you have, use of the remote might conflict with how you want to use the wall switches and pull chains. If you don't need the remote, you might be happier if you remove it (or not install it).
 
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