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Old 07-21-08, 03:36 PM
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I had a bad GFIC at my inground pool. Upon pulling the old one out, I discovered the ground most ikely was never hooked up at installation. I disconnected 4 wires and there was a 5th.

I don't know which is the ground. They are not common colors. I have a tester, How do I locate the wire that should hook to the ground position atop the GFIC ? Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by Badatta2d View Post
I had a bad GFIC at my inground pool. Upon pulling the old one out, I discovered the ground most ikely was never hooked up at installation. I disconnected 4 wires and there was a 5th.

I don't know which is the ground. They are not common colors. I have a tester, How do I locate the wire that should hook to the ground position atop the GFIC ? Thanks

You should only have 3 wires hooked up to a GFI.. but sounds like you have some violations if you cant tell which one is green...

[edit], sounds like this is a convenience receptacle with a line/load setup. So possible 5 wires, what was the wiring method used?
 
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Chris thanks for the response, I really didn't get to study it. As soon as I got it off a storm blew in. The outlet is like 15ft from the pool maybe less. It was inspected at installation so I'm sure it's at a minimum basically correct. Once the rain blows through I'll take a look at the colors. But from your comment green should be the ground?
 
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Originally Posted by Badatta2d View Post
Chris thanks for the response, I really didn't get to study it. As soon as I got it off a storm blew in. The outlet is like 15ft from the pool maybe less. It was inspected at installation so I'm sure it's at a minimum basically correct. Once the rain blows through I'll take a look at the colors. But from your comment green should be the ground?
Yes, green is ground, and this is a convenience receptacle correct? and you probably have another receptacle not working also?
 
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Yes the problem was the light wasn't working in the pool. So after replacing the bulb it still didn't work I started tracing power (or lack there-of) To the main Receptacle that was fried.
 
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Depends on what country you live in. Please put your location in your profile.
 
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wires are: brown tan gray blue red

Youngstown, OHIO USA
 
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Power around a pool HAS to be right, especially when you are dealing with an underwater light?

If you are not absolutely sure what the proper connection is I would call a qualified electrician. The code has very specific and lengthy regulation on bonding, grounding, etc. around pools. For your safety it is important to follow them.
 
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None of those colors are ground. In fact, those wires make very little sense. I agree with DSC. It's time to call in help.
 
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Think I got it figured out. Everything is working but the light. Got power everywhere else now. Got power to the light switch. Believe the light itself is bad.

Your right once I got in there I found the green grounds. They were hooked up.

Blue was the hot wire going to the other recepticle. everything else fell into place.
 
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Okay. I really hope you guessed correctly.
 
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The dog jumped in and came out ok so I reckon it's right.
 
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Well I would not joke around about water electrical safety. when you read the stories, and there are thousands of them, they are pretty gruesome and almost always avoidable. Many happen around docks and marinas but also swimming pools.

http://ecmweb.com/mag/electric_case_doityourself_home/

http://safetycenter.navy.mil/ashore/...trocutions.htm
 
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