Connecting 2 solid, 1 stranded wire

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Connecting 2 solid, 1 stranded wire

I want to connect 2 solid wires and I stranded wire (lighting fixture) using a marrette in a ceiling box. Can all three be connected in the marrette together, or is it better to connect the two solids to a pigtail and then connect the pigtail to the stranded in another marrette?

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Your answer depends on two things; what size solid wires are you connecting and.....what's a marrette?
 
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The wires are standard #14 and sorry.... marrette is a trade name for a twist-on connector
 
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Old 03-29-10, 07:12 PM
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You can put all three in one wire nut (AKA marrette).

CasualJoe first time I saw that I though it was something about puppets doing electrical work. LOL Actually I think it is a regional thing based on a brand name? Or maybe Quebec French? Sounds kind of French.
 
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I am not familiar with a marrette. I would recommend pigtailing the solid conductors with a 3rd #14 and then connecting the one #14 solid conductor to the stranded fixture wire with the appropriate sized marrette (or wire nut or wing nut). 72B or 73B wire nuts work nicely. Also, yellow Buchanans or yellow 3M connectors will also do the job. The brand is not important as long as they are appropriately sized and they work for you.
 
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There is no need to add an additional splice point in the circuit. Just lead the stranded slightly longer than the solids and install the marrette.
 

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I have always heard them called wire nuts. However, they call them marettes (sp?) on Holmes on Homes all the time. Might be a Canadian thing?
 
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He was the inventor of them so Marrette is like Xerox or Kleenex.
 
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Whether you pigtail or not is personal preference. Either way is correct.
 
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Thanks for the replies...I believe marrette is a Canadian tradename. Is there any requirement for a certain length of pigtail or do you just use whatever length suits? I know you need to pull at least 6" of wire into the box.
 
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Why make another splice when one would work fine? I don't see the advantage?
 
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Why make another splice when one would work fine? I don't see the advantage?
I thought the same thing. You are adding box congestion and failure points. The only benefit I see is when you have to remove the fixture, you don't have to mess with the building wiring at all. I've removed and replaced a few ceiling fans and other fixtures for painting or redecorating, and having a pigtail from the building wiring would make it easier, especially with fragile old wiring. But I don't have any of that any more.
 
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