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Old 01-07-11, 08:32 PM
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Circuit mystery

During the wash cycle, I turned the water level to half (for the rinse cycle) - which I've done many times before. The washer just stopped altogether and no light, no nuthin in that room. Strange thing is, none of the breakers are tripped. I reset them all anyway. The outlet is 5 feet from a water source, it doesn't have, doesn't really need gfci.

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Old 01-07-11, 09:08 PM
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There is a code requirement for laundry room or unfinished basement GFCI protection in many areas of the US depending on code cycle and local amendments. The GFCI could be in any room, inside or outside, crawl space, garage, or long forgotten hidden behind something.
 
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Does the outlet have voltage first? if you don't have a voltage meter plug a lamp or something into the outlet and see if you get power.
 
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No juice to that outlet. The light in the room - with a wall switch, is out too.
 
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Originally Posted by yodelaehee View Post
No juice to that outlet. The light in the room - with a wall switch, is out too.
Time to start checking connections. Move any back stabbed wires on the receptacle to the screws. Replace any wire nuts in the switch, light and receptacle. The problem could be in a working receptacle so you will need to check all working receptacles, lights and switches on the circuit also.
 
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There is a code requirement for laundry room or unfinished basement GFCI protection in many areas of the US depending on code cycle
I am unable to find the code requirement for GFCI protection of Laundry rooms. Can you cite this? All I see is that a 20A dedicated branch circuit is required.
 
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Old 01-08-11, 07:45 PM
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It will be in Article 210. I forget the number, but it states that GFI protection is required within 6' of the laundry tub. GFI protection is also required in unfinished basements.

What edition of the Code are you looking in?
 
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2008 and 2011.

6' of a sink yes, unfinished basement yes, laundry room no.

Its a good habit to cite your code references.

Its in 210.8 btw.
 
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NEC 2008. I have placed the relevant sections 5 and 7 in bold. Our posts crossed. You are correct. No sink and a habitable area no GFCI required. I hadn't checked. I was going by what I thought I had read. Thanks for the correction.

210.8 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for
Personnel.
FPN: See 215.9 for ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection
for personnel on feeders.
(A) Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and
20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in
(1) through (8) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter
protection for personnel.
(1) Bathrooms
(2) Garages, and also accessory buildings that have a floor
located at or below grade level not intended as habitable
rooms and limited to storage areas, work areas,
and areas of similar use
(3) Outdoors
Exception to (3): Receptacles that are not readily accessible
and are supplied by a dedicated branch circuit for
electric snow-melting or deicing equipment shall be permitted
to be installed in accordance with 426.28.
(4) Crawl spaces — at or below grade level
(5) Unfinished basements — for purposes of this section,
unfinished basements are defined as portions or areas of
the basement not intended as habitable rooms and limited
to storage areas, work areas, and the like

Exception to (5): A receptacle supplying only a permanently
installed fire alarm or burglar alarm system shall
not be required to have ground-fault circuit-interrupter
protection.
FPN: See 760.41(B) and 760.121(B) for power supply
requirements for fire alarm systems.
Receptacles installed under the exception to
210.8(A)(5) shall not be considered as meeting the
requirements of 210.52(G).
(6) Kitchens — where the receptacles are installed to serve
the countertop surfaces
(7) Laundry, utility, and wet bar sinks — where the receptacles
are installed within 1.8 m (6 ft) of the outside
edge of the sink

(8) Boathouses
(B) Other Than Dwelling Units. All 125-volt, singlephase,
15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations
specified in (1) through (5) shall have ground-fault
circuit-interrupter protection for personnel:
(1) Bathrooms
(2) Kitchens
(3) Rooftops
(4) Outdoors
ARTICLE 210—BRANCH CIRCUITS 210.8
2008 Edition NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE
 
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