Add a switch next to an outlet?

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Old 01-16-11, 03:34 PM
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Add a switch next to an outlet?

I have a small bank of cabinets on a wall in my kitchen. There is a single gang electrical box with a GFCI on this wall and I want to hard wire switched under-cabinet lighting in this location.

My plan is to remove the single gang box, replace it with a two gang box and add a switch next to the GFCI. I wish to pull power from the GFCI for the switch.

I'm believe there are two 14/2 cables in this box (power coming in going out).

Not sure how to get power from the GFCI to the switch. Any simple diagrams I can reference?

TIA.

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Old 01-16-11, 03:55 PM
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I wish to pull power from the GFCI for the switch.
Countertop kitchen receptacle circuits by code can not be used for lighting.

I'm believe there are two 14/2 cables in this box
That would not be code compliant for a countertop receptacle. It should be #12 on a 20a breaker.
 
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Old 01-16-11, 03:55 PM
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The small appliance countertop circuits cannot be used to power hard-wired lighting. You will need to find another source of power.

The correct size wire for the 20 amp receptacle circuits would be #12.
 
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Originally Posted by pcboss View Post
The small appliance countertop circuits cannot be used to power hard-wired lighting. You will need to find another source of power.

The correct size wire for the 20 amp receptacle circuits would be #12.
It's probably 12#...it's original to the house. I was assuming it was 14# but I'm probably wrong.

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The small appliance countertop circuits cannot be used to power hard-wired lighting. You will need to find another source of power.
Or just eliminate the outlet and replace it with a switch?

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Originally Posted by TipsyMcStagger View Post
Or just eliminate the outlet and replace it with a switch?
No, it would still be on a prohibited branch circuit plus the receptacle spacing would probably no longer be code compliant.
 
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No, it would still be on a prohibited branch circuit plus the receptacle spacing would probably no longer be code compliant.
Too bad.

Thanks for the info.

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Or just eliminate the outlet and replace it with a switch?

Tipsy
The receptacle is probably needed to meet the receptacle spacing requirements in addition
to the prohibition against being used for the lighting.
 
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Old 01-17-11, 07:53 AM
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What sections are the kitchen counter requirements?
 
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Old 01-17-11, 09:03 AM
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What sections are the kitchen counter requirements?
210.52 is one section. For instance relevant to this post is 210.52.b
(2) no other outlets. The two or more small-appliance
branch circuits specified in 210.52(b)(1) shall have no
other outlets.
 
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