Rough wiring for recessed lights...

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Old 01-30-11, 09:26 AM
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Talking Rough wiring for recessed lights...

First... I can't ask the local inspector - he's part time and doesn't field questions from homeowners. I have to go with best practices and then deal w/him later.

I'm installing recessed cans in two rooms and plan to use remodel fixtures. The one room has an existing sheetrock ceiling, so I will cut holes from underneath for the light locations. The other is my basement which we are finishing - as of now, no ceiling. I want to use remodel fixtures in the basement because of the time savings laying out holes vs. matching holes to fixture locations. So the inspector will see the rough wiring there w/no ceiling being up.

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How do you do the rough wiring for the rough electrical inspection? It seems like all I can do is run NM to the basic areas where the fixture will be and leave long loose ends hanging. Is that right? How is it done for recessed cans like this?

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Old 01-30-11, 10:13 AM
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Typically, there is no rough inspection when installing remodeler cans in an existing ceiling, but that can vary by location. When there is no ceiling yet, as in your basement, it isn't normal to use remodeler cans so how the rough inspection would be handled is a hard question to answer. In your case in your basement, the way I see it, you can't do anything more than leave long tails at the approximate location where you will eventually install remodeler cans. I would use new construction cans if it were my basement.
 
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Thanks.

2 questions:

What about the existing ceiling - just loose wires for inspection?

Why not remodel cans? Seems much faster on the sheetrock end.
 
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Old 01-30-11, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by syakoban View Post
Thanks.

2 questions:

What about the existing ceiling - just loose wires for inspection?

Why not remodel cans? Seems much faster on the sheetrock end.
Usually the inspector will look at the finish install of remodeler cans in an existing ceiling, the wires are just fished into the existing ceiling between joists and don't require stapling. As far as the new ceiling, I suggest new construction cans because they will get 90 plus percent of their support from the joists and not just the ceiling drywall as with remodeler cans. They can be installed and completely wired for the inspector to see on rough inspection before the ceiling goes up. It's no big deal cutting drywall to fit them.
 
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What about the existing ceiling - just loose wires for inspection?
If it's open, I'd say the cables should be fastened and run through bore hores where possible. Can't hurt to mark everything with a sharpie (power in, power out, switch leg, etc).

Why not remodel cans? Seems much faster on the sheetrock end.
They are heavy and can sag the drywall or cause nail pops. They are also not as adjustable as nail-in cans. I would do new-work cans where possible. They are very easy to finish around, just nail your drywall panel up on the corners with 4-5 nails so its still hanging kind of loose to the joists but should be pretty tight against the cans. Run your rotozip around the cans to drop out a perfect size circle. Finish screwing off the panel and you're good to go. That way you don't even need to mess with a big hole saw or circle cutter knife or measure tape.
 
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Thanks guys - appreciated!
 
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