Has anyone here built a Tesla free energy generator?

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Old 07-11-11, 07:56 PM
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Has anyone here built a Tesla free energy generator?

Hi all. I'm new here because I'm trying to find someone who has built a free energy generator. My power bills have gone up ridiculously and I can't afford solar or wind. But I found this other method that apparently anyone can build for around $100 that will provide household electricity for free.

Has anyone here made one? How does it work?

If this system actually works, wouldn't it be a huge threat to power companies? No wonder the govt suppressed it! I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has made one. (Apparently there are many thousands of them out there.) Would it be legal to install and how does it connect in to the house?
 

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Welcome to the forums! Science has certain basic fundamentals. One is "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch." You're talking along the same lines as a perpetual motion machine.
 
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Old 07-11-11, 08:20 PM
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From what I've read, radiation from the sun is real, but Tesla apparently was able to convert it to electricity. If electricty can be generated with solar panels, wind turbines and geo-thermal (free energy), I am open to other discoveries. I am still hoping that someone on the forum has actually built one of these generators. That is the ultimate proof.
 
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Old 07-12-11, 04:27 AM
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Solar energy will require a bank of batteries the size of a garage in order to supply enough direct current to supply a house with energy. The best use of solar energy at present, IMO, is selling it back to the power company. We have solar panel "farms" scattered across our county and that is what they do. Pretty effective. But, individual use to date hasn't been perfected.
 
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I won't close this thread but from now on it will continue without the credited redirects to a sales site.
 
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Old 07-12-11, 05:44 AM
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Although I usually ignore these snake oil sales pitches, I watched the video out of curiosity. I'm guessing you would need an "antenna" the size of Rhode Island (like chandler's garage-size solar panel array) and or a million or so of the "generator" devices (BTW, that would be DC power for the cell phone, which would need to be converted to AC). Powering a household is a bit different from charging a cell phone battery. The claim of "big energy" squashing the product is a sales point that goes back decades for people trying to sell any manner of products; you know, the 200 mpg carburetor, et al, that the oil companies squashed. Rubbish.

Some things I noticed:

1. Price has been "slashed" from $220 to $49; didn't sell well, I guess.
2. Through their "affiliate" program people can help scam others with a hefty commission.
3. If you Google the terminology you get several million hits, most of which are websites trying to sell the info.

Urlybird, you're open to new ideas, etc, so why not fall on your sword and spend the $49? Do the "Mythbusters" routine for all of us skeptics.
 
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I remember hearing someone talk about using solar panels and how a certain area of the panels in a sunny place (something like the entire state of Arizona) would provide enough power to run the world. Problem was there had not been that many panels built in the history of solar power. In addition, the wiring required probably doesn't exist either.

I think Gunny hit it out of the park calling this snake oil.
 
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Decided to buy the blueprint

I'm certainly intrigued and have just spent a while watching all kinds of weird stuff on YouTube. I've seen enough to convince me that if done correctly, perpetual motion is possible. I've decided to go with a different one. This one is from Australia. In fact the company was featured on Sky News and is selling heaps of the plans. It will be a while before I can afford the parts (total cost of the plan plus parts is around $150) but I promise that when it's completed, I'll come back and report my results.

Meanwhile, here's a video I found on YouTube that explains why these generators are not manufactured. It also includes what happened to Tesla.
YouTube - ‪Free Energy - Pentagon Conspiracy to Cover up‬‏ Scary stuff!
There are no sales pitches or links to a sales page. Simply explains the "conspiracy" angle. (You might have to pull the progress bar back to the beginning to see the whole video. It skips a few seconds for me.)
 
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I watched one of the videos, it seems like it would be an awful lot of work to harness this electricity (assuming this is all true) and I also saw nothing about current; voltage by itself doesn't accomplish anything.

Please let us know how this works out for you - while we're skeptical, we're also curious.
 
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It will be a while before I can afford the parts (total cost of the plan plus parts is around $150) but I promise that when it's completed, I'll come back and report my results.
Surely you've misplaced a decimal point. If you can't afford $150 for something that would eliminate your electric bills, how are you currently paying your electric bill? I would suggest you convince your neighbors and relatives to invest $10 each in your scheme and offer to build one for them after your results are proven.

Also, urlybird, please state for the record that you have no interests, financial or otherwise, in the promotion of this scheme. That would help reduce skepticism, since your posts so far are sufficiently ambiguous as to raise the question. Thanks.
 

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The reason I can't afford the parts right now is that I just received my power bill which is over $500! Here in Australia, the services just increased on July 1st and our Prime Minister just announced a new carbon tax, so electricity prices will continue to rise. Hence I'm keen to find a cheaper way before my next bill. I'm almost 60 with a mortgage, living in a small rural village and only have 2 days a week work.

If I can get this generator to work, I'll certainly be spreading the word!

Incidentally, I've just emailed the Australian guy who featured on Sky News. He's doesn't sell blueprints, but manufactures the generators. I told him I wasn't in a position to buy one of his machines but asked him if these $49 blueprints on the internet were genuine. He's unlikely to endorse them but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'll wait & see if he responds before deciding to buy the blueprint.
 
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The world is full of conspiracy theorists; name a subject and somebody has a conspiracy theory about it.
 
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I hope this is a troll. :-) I love a good fakepost.
 
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Old 07-12-11, 11:20 AM
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I watched one of the videos, it seems like it would be an awful lot of work to harness this electricity (assuming this is all true) and I also saw nothing about current; voltage by itself doesn't accomplish anything.

Please let us know how this works out for you - while we're skeptical, we're also curious.
Precisely. This is why I originally posted, hoping to find someone who has built one and installed it successfully. I have been continuing my research since my original post and have now found the real thing. You might be interested to read the history of the actual Australian invention here John Christie & Ludwig Brits: System for Controlling a Rotary Device

When these generators finally go to the market (worldwide patent is pending) they'll cost around $4,000 - $5,000. The prototype produces 1500% more output than input & generates 24 Kwatts a day. Now that I've read the press releases and history, I'm pretty sure that the $49 blueprints couldn't possibly produce these kinds of results for $100! But even if it reduces the bill by 25% it would pay for itself in one billing cycle.

Bottom line is that it looks suspiciously like these $49 plans are likely to be BS! Not a lot of hope for a DIY model just yet anyway.
 
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Old 07-12-11, 11:32 AM
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I hope this is a troll. :-) I love a good fakepost.
This has been an eye-opener for me. Definitely not a fake post. If these generators do become available, I might consider borrowing against my mortgage for one. At the current cost of power bills (and about to rise as much as 20% this year, taking mine to $600 per quarter without heating - I have a wood fire) the thing would pay for itself in 2 years and would even supply power back to the grid. Much cheaper than solar or wind power installations.
 
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It's 500% efficient and, if not for the magnets and battery pack, which last only 1300 and 5 years respectively, would be in perpetual motion?

I'm even more skeptical now, especially since the 'delays' I would expect to see in getting this to market because they're looking for financing are also present - looks just like a scam to me.
 
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500-1500% efficient....right. So all we have to do is violate all known laws of physics...no problem.

Here's the deal....anyone who was serious about helping humanity would just throw the designs and info out there on the WWW and let anyone and everyone build one. The donations of appreciation alone would make them rich as midas.

Might as well run your car on water....

Cold fusion anyone?

btw urlybird...I understand the monetary situation.....but if I could have a $500-600 bill per quarter (3 months?)...I wouldn't complain too much (not knowing anything about exchange rates of course).
 
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$500 Aussie is $533.46 US; you didn't know that, Guns? I missed where he said quarterly; where did he say that? It would be a bargain quarterly; think we run about $200/mo year round, all electric house.
 
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Post 15....."taking mine to $600 per quarter "
 
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Gee... I guess I should not buy the plans for that "Flux capacitor" I saw online. It looked good, only 5 easy payments of $19.99. I was going to go back in time and punch myself for not marrying Cindy Crawford....

Ahhh all my plans ruined.... It does come with a free set of Ginsu Knives...

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But, Mike, didn't they say they would "double" the offer if you ordered now, paying separate shipping and handling?????? I mean everything on TV is $19.99, doubled or tripled in some cases.
 
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Tesla lived and died a long time ago. If this was possible, it would have been up and working before sputnik took flight. It's BS. All of it. Spend your $49 on more insulation for your home and some CFL lightbulbs.
 
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500-1500% efficient....right. So all we have to do is violate all known laws of physics...no problem.

Here's the deal....anyone who was serious about helping humanity would just throw the designs and info out there on the WWW and let anyone and everyone build one. The donations of appreciation alone would make them rich as midas.

Might as well run your car on water....

Cold fusion anyone?

btw urlybird...I understand the monetary situation.....but if I could have a $500-600 bill per quarter (3 months?)...I wouldn't complain too much (not knowing anything about exchange rates of course).
Hey Guns, thanks for your understanding. Just wanted to comment on the "known" laws of physics. Tesla purportedly discovered laws of physics that challenged previous knowledge. J.P. Morgan, the entrepreneur, gave him the financial backing to prove his theories, which he did. Tesla was able to transmit electricity through thin air from a huge tower that was purpose built, just as he did with radio waves before Marconi.

The sad thing was that Morgan could see no way to meter usage, so he ordered the tower be dismantled and withdrew funding. Hence the controversy of "free" energy began. There have been countless physicists who have tried to (and succeeded in) to prove Tesla's theory, but they have all been discredited. Some have even paid with their lives in mysterious circumstances.

Patents have been refused and archived as top secret by governments. After Tesla's death the FBI raided his premises and stole all his work.

This debate will continue to evoke controversy and ridicule whilst the world economy continues to be fed with fossil fuels. It's all about the money. Just think about it. Why would these corporations and governments want everyone to have access to free energy? Imagine the consequences! Oil, coal & even gas companies would collapse, jobs would be lost, the stock markets would plummet, govt tax revenues would diminish. All round a disaster of mammoth proportions would result.

That's why patents are never granted on free energy technology.

(Oh, and about my electricity bill. For a 2 person household (parent & daughter) it's lower than the average family for sure, but my low income ($350 per week) is stretched to the limit by the mortgage and incidentals. Making ends meet is always a challenge. Lucklily, heating is not an addedexpense, as we have a wood fire, Living in a rural area, fallen branches provide sufficient fuel.)
 
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It's 500% efficient and, if not for the magnets and battery pack, which last only 1300 and 5 years respectively, would be in perpetual motion?

I'm even more skeptical now, especially since the 'delays' I would expect to see in getting this to market because they're looking for financing are also present - looks just like a scam to me.
If you read further into the earlier reports on that page, you'd see where they said that their current prototytpe was 1500% efficient.

Look at it this way, we need a battery to start a car, and then the motor recharges the battery. I imagine that this power generator would be designed with a similar principles. 1300 years is pretty darned good. (5 years for the battery is similar to a car.)

In reading those news articles, it appears that there was no shortage of funding offers. I still believe the delay is the patent. Therein lies the problem as I've outlined here a few times - the governments and fuel cartels don't want free energy devices on the market because of the economic consequences.

This is why Tesla and all his scientific successors have been booed off the world stage as cranks and scammers. The populace has been brainwashed into disbelieving the validity of the whole concept.
 
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Tesla was far ahead of HIS time and was a great mind and probably a better "inventor" than Edison, who hired people to create things in his labs that so he could get his name on the patent. Edison managed to get powerful friends to help him. He was behind (in some way) many great patents, but got in the middle of the early GE - Westinghouse battle that was settled in the favor of AC.

The break was the battle between AC and DC for power generation and transmission. DC was much better and more efficient for transmission and AC was cheaper for use in for compact areas/cities. I think it is ironic that GE purchased a Hungarian company (Mazda?) years ago that made a large majority of the light bulbs based on Teslas designs.

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The break was the battle between AC and DC for power generation and transmission. DC was much better and more efficient for transmission and AC was cheaper for use in for compact areas/cities.
Other way around. DC does not transmit well at all. It would've only been good for small areas with a generating plant in the middle. IIRC in order to transmit DC over distance a booster station would've been required every mile or so. DC would have never been able to be used in the scale of today's power grids.

But yeah, these 'free energy' things are all snake oil and anyone dumb enough to pay these scam artists for them (or the plans - which BTW are available all over the internet for free) deserves what they get. There is no such thing as a >100% efficient generator. Energy can not be created, destroyed, or multiplied, it can only be harnessed, and the laws of physics on this earth are infallible.

No doubt Tesla was a genius, and probably the second most important inventor in all of history (behind the guy who invented the wheel), but dont forget he also went crazy around the time he was playing with 'wireless electricity'. A more likely scenario is that JP Morgan (and other potential investors) saw nothing but cost overruns and delays for his investment. He was out $150,000 with nothing to show for it so he cut his losses.
 

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Perpetual motion machine designs are all over the net. None are actually perpetual because they are not 100% efficient, but some will (theoretically) run for years. The problem lies in tapping the power to perform any work.

urlybird, does your government or utility company have any incentive programs for solar or wind power? Those are proven technologies that can reduce your utility bills.
 
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I've come up with a way to run my car on compressed air. The net cost is about 2 cents a mile. Unfortunately OPEC has taken my family hostage to prevent my publicizing the methods, but I really want to get the technology out there to end our dependence on foreign oil so I'm setting up an anonymous P.O. Box for people to use to order the instructions. It'll be $29.95, but wait; included with your order will be the biography of P.T. Barnum. You'll be able to Google it next week.
 
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BTW, just a random thought in passing, but if Big Energy, et al, is blocking certain technology like this Tesla gizmo, why aren't they attacking ALL energy-saving stuff like solar cells, fuel cells, electric car technology, hydrogen technology, wind power technology, solar water heating, insulation technology, CFL technology, geothermal, and the list goes on.

Was just reading this morning about Washington deciding not to overturn the law on lightbulb efficiency mandated in 2007. Seems it would have been pretty easy to buy enough rep's and senators to kill the mandated move to energy-efficient (read: money out of Big Energy's pocket) CFL's.
 
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Perpetual motion machine designs are all over the net. None are actually perpetual because they are not 100% efficient, but some will (theoretically) run for years. The problem lies in tapping the power to perform any work.

urlybird, does your government or utility company have any incentive programs for solar or wind power? Those are proven technologies that can reduce your utility bills.
They just canceled them unfortunately and instead are introducing a carbon tax for big polluters, which will be passed down the line as increases to consumers.
 
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Originally Posted by the_tow_guy View Post
I've come up with a way to run my car on compressed air. The net cost is about 2 cents a mile. Unfortunately OPEC has taken my family hostage to prevent my publicizing the methods, but I really want to get the technology out there to end our dependence on foreign oil so I'm setting up an anonymous P.O. Box for people to use to order the instructions. It'll be $29.95, but wait; included with your order will be the biography of P.T. Barnum. You'll be able to Google it next week.
Come on! As a moderator you are pushing the boundaries a bit. Are you implying that this is a circus?
 
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Originally Posted by the_tow_guy View Post
BTW, just a random thought in passing, but if Big Energy, et al, is blocking certain technology like this Tesla gizmo, why aren't they attacking ALL energy-saving stuff like solar cells, fuel cells, electric car technology, hydrogen technology, wind power technology, solar water heating, insulation technology, CFL technology, geothermal, and the list goes on.
That is kinda weird, and I've pondered the same question. Perhaps it's because they are supplemented by normal power/fuels and not replace them altogether?
 
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No, I was alluding to one of P.T.'s most famous quotations.......
 
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If you really want to fry your brain, try reading through all the hits when you Google "free electricity generator" (1,940,000 results) or something similar:

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More gadgets and gizmos than you can shake a stick at.
 
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