Too Tight in the Box (Junction)
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Too Tight in the Box (Junction)
Hey Guys
I'm wiring up a circuit for a row of wall outlets. They are a row of 6 junction boxes around the perimeter of my basement, to be arc faulted. The Panel is at the middle point of the run of outlets, and I want to tie in to energize the circuit in the middle of the run.
That said, I will have 3 ends of 12/2 in the box (blue new construction), with an outlet.
From my understanding that too many wires to fit into a standard single outlet 22CI box. That said, its my understanding that I will need to use a bigger box for the connections. I can use a 2 gang, but then how do I go about finishing/cutting the drywall so that the hole will only service half the box?
On another note, whats the best way to cut out the drywall around a plastic box? Will a rotary tool still work as in a steel box?
Thanks,
Bryan
I'm wiring up a circuit for a row of wall outlets. They are a row of 6 junction boxes around the perimeter of my basement, to be arc faulted. The Panel is at the middle point of the run of outlets, and I want to tie in to energize the circuit in the middle of the run.
That said, I will have 3 ends of 12/2 in the box (blue new construction), with an outlet.
From my understanding that too many wires to fit into a standard single outlet 22CI box. That said, its my understanding that I will need to use a bigger box for the connections. I can use a 2 gang, but then how do I go about finishing/cutting the drywall so that the hole will only service half the box?
On another note, whats the best way to cut out the drywall around a plastic box? Will a rotary tool still work as in a steel box?
Thanks,
Bryan
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You could either use a higher volume and deeper single gang box or use a 4" square (1900) box with 1-gang plaster frame. The best way to cut the drywall around a box is a matter of opinion. On a small job, I'd probably lay out the openings on the drywall and cut with a sharp utility knife.
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Box Fill
3 black = 3
3 white = 3
All grounds = 1
Receptacle = 2
Total fills = 9 x 2,25 = 20.25 cu. in. box
A 22 cu in box should be fine.
Pros, have I missed anything in my calculations?
3 white = 3
All grounds = 1
Receptacle = 2
Total fills = 9 x 2,25 = 20.25 cu. in. box
A 22 cu in box should be fine.
Pros, have I missed anything in my calculations?
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Will a rotary tool still work as in a steel box?
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I think hands down the best way to cut a box hole in drywall is a drywall saw. Less chance for screwing up and a lot less dust!
Something like this:
6 in. Fixed Jab Saw-48-22-0304 at The Home Depot
Something like this:
6 in. Fixed Jab Saw-48-22-0304 at The Home Depot
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I also tend to reach for my drywall saw when I need to make or enlarge an opening - maybe after scoring the line with a drywall knife if minimizing tearout is an issue.
A couple of years ago, I was doing a renovation that included adding some receptacles in a very finished metal-framed wall. First hole we started we hit a stud about half-way acress. Of course! Starting a new hole wasn't an option and touching this wall with a reciprocating saw wasn't an option either. I was pretty well stymied, but my helper had a solution. He pulled his new QUIK-LOK Job Saw out, bummed a (company-provided) metal-cutting blade off me, finished cutting the opening and installed the box. Done deal.
I bought my saw on the way home that evening, and it's the only drywall saw I want. I can change the blade to be any 1/2 in. tang universal reciprocating saw blade. That means a regular drywall blade, a rough-cut demo blade, a smooth blade for cutting plastics or, in a case like this, one of my favorite shorty blades, thereby reducing the chances of collateral damage. It'll do anything my recip saw can do, only with the control of a hand saw.
One thing I like about it, although I haven't used it yet, is that the butt of the handle is recessed and threaded to accept a standard extension pole, allowing you to extend your reach with it! The saw is a bit pricey, and I've only seen them at supply houses, but, hey, it's the last drywall saw you'll ever have to buy.
A couple of years ago, I was doing a renovation that included adding some receptacles in a very finished metal-framed wall. First hole we started we hit a stud about half-way acress. Of course! Starting a new hole wasn't an option and touching this wall with a reciprocating saw wasn't an option either. I was pretty well stymied, but my helper had a solution. He pulled his new QUIK-LOK Job Saw out, bummed a (company-provided) metal-cutting blade off me, finished cutting the opening and installed the box. Done deal.
I bought my saw on the way home that evening, and it's the only drywall saw I want. I can change the blade to be any 1/2 in. tang universal reciprocating saw blade. That means a regular drywall blade, a rough-cut demo blade, a smooth blade for cutting plastics or, in a case like this, one of my favorite shorty blades, thereby reducing the chances of collateral damage. It'll do anything my recip saw can do, only with the control of a hand saw.
One thing I like about it, although I haven't used it yet, is that the butt of the handle is recessed and threaded to accept a standard extension pole, allowing you to extend your reach with it! The saw is a bit pricey, and I've only seen them at supply houses, but, hey, it's the last drywall saw you'll ever have to buy.