How do I ground an existing subpanel?
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How do I ground an existing subpanel?
I have a 1950s ranch with a 50A subpanel without a ground. The subpanel is wired with three #6 without a ground. The subpanel is about 70 ft from the main. Can I run a seperate ground from the main to the sub, following the same path as the #6-3? If I ran a seperate ground, it would not be in a conduit, it would just run parallel to the current feed. Or should I run a new #6-3G.
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The subpanel is about 70 ft from the main.
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The subpanel is in the house, just at the opposite end of a long ranch so no grounding rod required (correct?). What's interesting (or maybe scary) is that the ground and neutrals are already seperated / isolated in the subpanel (each has it's one bus). So the ground bus really isn't grounded. I'll run a #10 ground from the main to the sub. Thanks.
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The EGC, separate ground bus, and isolated neutral is required by modern code but no ground rod. The EGC (equipment grounding conductor) wire can be run anyway that is convenient. It must connect to the main ground. If this is a 60 amp feed #10 green or bare is all you need. Of course it is grandfathered but always good to bring it up to modern code.
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The subpanel is in the house, just at the opposite end of a long ranch so no grounding rod required (correct?).
What's interesting (or maybe scary) is that the ground and neutrals are already seperated / isolated in the subpanel (each has it's one bus).
At the same time, the grounds must be bonded to the enclosure and to earth. That means that the ground bus needs to be in direct contact with the can and, should be bonded to it with an approved ground screw, and should have an EGC (an Equipment Grounding Conductor) from the main panel terminated to it.
So the ground bus really isn't grounded.

I'll run a #10 ground from the main to the sub.

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The subpanel is in the house, just at the opposite end of a long ranch so no grounding rod required (correct?). What's interesting (or maybe scary) is that the ground and neutrals are already seperated / isolated in the subpanel (each has it's one bus). So the ground bus really isn't grounded. I'll run a #10 ground from the main to the sub.
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Thanks guys. Just to summarize for the follow up question. Just bought a house with a subpanel in the basement that was feed with #6-3 NM no ground and not in conduite; just run under the floor joist. The neutral bus was isolated from the ground and can (no bonding screw and confirmed with resistance reading with feed disconnected) while the ground bus was bonded to case. I wanted to make sure the subpanel was grounded, but wasn't certain if I could run a seperate ground or if I needed to run a new #6-3G. As suggested, I ran a seperate ground. All is good. Thanks for the help and for followup questoins/carlifications.