Troubleshooting: Power out in garage and few other places
#1
Troubleshooting: Power out in garage and few other places
When it happened:
I was on a table saw using an extension cord, it worked for about 4 cuts, then on the 5th cut, the power cut out.
What I did after:
Went straight to the breaker box, nothing was off or in the middle, everything was still in the on position.
I went around looking to reset all GFCI outlets.
A few of them had the green light on, but once I hit the reset button, they went off, and hitting either test or reset doesn't do anything now.
Affected spaces:
Garage, downstairs restroom, and upstairs restroom
I also can't figure out which switch is connected to those areas, so I've switched off/on all switches.
There's one that's called GFI (labeled on the breaker) that is controlling the garage storage room, and that light works when I switch it on, so I doubt it's that one. All the other ones are connected to other rooms that still work. Is it possible that there's a switch somewhere outside the house?
Townhouse built in 1984
Please help, I'm
Thanks!
I was on a table saw using an extension cord, it worked for about 4 cuts, then on the 5th cut, the power cut out.
What I did after:
Went straight to the breaker box, nothing was off or in the middle, everything was still in the on position.
I went around looking to reset all GFCI outlets.
A few of them had the green light on, but once I hit the reset button, they went off, and hitting either test or reset doesn't do anything now.
Affected spaces:
Garage, downstairs restroom, and upstairs restroom
I also can't figure out which switch is connected to those areas, so I've switched off/on all switches.
There's one that's called GFI (labeled on the breaker) that is controlling the garage storage room, and that light works when I switch it on, so I doubt it's that one. All the other ones are connected to other rooms that still work. Is it possible that there's a switch somewhere outside the house?
Townhouse built in 1984
Please help, I'm

Thanks!
#2
You have a GFCI (either breaker or receptacle) hiding behind a box, shelf or fridge....somewhere. Likely in the garage or the storage room (my first guess). Lights aren't put on GFCI.
The fact the breaker is labeled GFI tells me it feeds a receptacle in the storage room which is where you will find your problem.
The fact the breaker is labeled GFI tells me it feeds a receptacle in the storage room which is where you will find your problem.
#4
From your first post it seems there may be GFCI's daisy chained to other GFCI's, which will drive you crazy. You only need one at the beginning of the run. We'll wait while you go through the garage and move boxes, check all the bathrooms and the one under the house in the crawl/basement.
#5
A few of them had the green light on, but once I hit the reset button, they went off, and hitting either test or reset doesn't do anything now.
#7
So... I've hunted down all gfci outlets and hit "reset" on all of them, and still no luck... I even found one out in the patio! I can say with 95% certainty that I've gotten them all, at least every place i can visually see and reach. I'm out of ideas, so I decided to try removing the outlet that I think caused the problem, since it's the only outlet that's old. So I go to open it up, and it looks a lot more complicated than I anticipated, so maybe you guys can help me out. There looks to be three 12/2 wires coming to the outlet. (See attached)
#8
Those two blue things in your box are called scotch locks. My opinion.....get rid of them.
Remove them and twist the wires together with wire nuts.
I've never seen a more intermittent connection than those things
Remove them and twist the wires together with wire nuts.
I've never seen a more intermittent connection than those things

#9
So I've removed the outlet, and problem still hasn't been solved. I've attached a picture of what I did... maybe something's not right?
Also, all the wires in the back of the outlet look like they were burnt, fried...
I'm guessing the old GFCI outlet didn't do it's job... am I right? If so, do you think it damaged something else?
Running out of ideas,
Also, all the wires in the back of the outlet look like they were burnt, fried...
I'm guessing the old GFCI outlet didn't do it's job... am I right? If so, do you think it damaged something else?
Running out of ideas,

#10
I've removed the outlet, and problem still hasn't been solved. I've attached a picture of what I did... maybe something's not right?
Are you testing for power with an analog multimeter as you go?
Hard to tell from the picture, but the wires don't look burned or severely overheated to me.
That's a rare horizontal GFCI, BTW. If it works at all you should hang onto it. Might be worth a couple of bucks, since they seem to have quit making them.
#11
Ok, I've connected all 3 wires, still nothing.
Not using a multimeter, I'm just switching everything off as I work on the wires.
If you look closely, the red wire shows it, there's black all over the wire, and even on the back of the outlet housing, there was definitely something fried.
Is there an easy way to test if the horiz outlet is bust or not?
Any other ideas? Or you think it's time to call in the electrician? If so, anyone have any recommendations in the South Bay Area in California?
Not using a multimeter, I'm just switching everything off as I work on the wires.
If you look closely, the red wire shows it, there's black all over the wire, and even on the back of the outlet housing, there was definitely something fried.
Is there an easy way to test if the horiz outlet is bust or not?
Any other ideas? Or you think it's time to call in the electrician? If so, anyone have any recommendations in the South Bay Area in California?
#12
Ok, I've connected all 3 wires, still nothing.
Not using a multimeter, I'm just switching everything off as I work on the wires.
If you look closely, the red wire shows it, there's black all over the wire, and even on the back of the outlet housing, there was definitely something fried.
Is there an easy way to test if the horiz outlet is bust or not?
Any other ideas? Or you think it's time to call in the electrician?
If so, anyone have any recommendations in the South Bay Area in California?