6/3 UF in 1" liquid tight hot tub connection


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Old 10-17-13, 07:26 AM
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6/3 UF in 1" liquid tight hot tub connection

Help, I'm just a girl trying to pull 6/3 UF through 1" liquid tight. Dawn dish soap doesn't seem to be enough lubrication for the job, any tips? Also, I have 160' run from my panel to the disconnect done in the 6/3 UF buried 18" deep without conduit. However, from the disconnect to the spa what is the best wire scenario to use? 6/3 UF in liquid tight or 4 separate THHN in liquid tight?
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Old 10-17-13, 07:55 AM
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Replace the UF with individual conductors.

Uf or any cable assembly outside is illegal. The ground wire has to be insulated.

Edit: you can't even use the UF to feed the disconnect.
 
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Old 10-17-13, 08:22 AM
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The UF could be in used for any interior portion of the wiring. Once outside the ground must be insulated.

You have a lot of work to redo.
 
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Okay, now anyone have tips on pulling the wire through the conduit. Local store is out of wire lube. Tried binding the wires together and using dawn to aid in the pulling. Slowly pushing from one end and pulling from the other. Any tips are greatly appreciated.
 
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Old 10-17-13, 09:41 AM
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3 #6 wires plus a ground should go into a 1" liquid tight, even if it is the non metallic kind. Are you trying to push through a 90 degree fitting? Of so you need to remove the fitting.

Try using a strong string or a fish tape. Run the fish tape in, attach the wires to the tape, and with the help of a friend, pull the wires in while pushing from the other end. Keep the flex straight and keep the wires so they don't overlap/twist.
 
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Old 10-17-13, 10:00 AM
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4 separate THHN in liquid tight?
Conductors installed in conduit outside must be rated as water resistant. You need to use THWN. Most individual conductors are dual rated (THHN/THWN) so you may already have them. The green insulated ground wire can be #10 AWG.

The requirement for the insulated ground should only apply from the disconnect to the tub.
 
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Thank you for all your responses. Just left a professional electric supply house. Got 1 1/4" non metallic flex with fittings. I'm leaving the 6/3 UF as is and running the THWN from the disconnect to the tub. Can't wait to get it up and running.
 
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The requirement for the insulated ground should only apply from the disconnect to the tub.
For outdoor installations, Part II of 680 applies. Outside branch circuits must have an insulated copper EGC no smaller than #12.
 
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Old 10-17-13, 03:08 PM
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Many tub instructions call for a full sized #6 ground.

The conductors in the conduit need to have the proper insulation colors, two black, a white and a green. You could also use a black and a red instead of two blacks.
 
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Old 10-17-13, 03:31 PM
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The part from the house to the disconnect is buried UF. It's designed for use outdoors, feeding whatever load. However, Article 680 requires an insulated ground for pools and hot tubs. The exterior UF needs to be replaced.

Pcboss has got the info on the wires in the conduit.
 

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