Can't get baffle trim on H99T recessed lights...

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Old 12-21-13, 03:04 PM
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Can't get baffle trim on H99T recessed lights...

Hi all,

Dealing with a bit of a frustrating issue using H99T (Halo) recessed light cans- I can't seem to get apparently compatible trim/LED retrofits (LED10DR427) to snap into place- so far 1 out of 6 is actually flush with the ceiling. the rest pop back out about 1/4 inch. Any suggestions? I'm on the verge of just using (good) construction adhesive and a 2x4 to keep it in place and dealing with it in 25 years when the LEDs burn out (or 2 months when their control boards fail...)

Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks!

Wyatt
 
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Old 12-21-13, 03:39 PM
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Welcome to the forums! The LED light trims are a little heavier than the normal trim rings. I have found that the black springs may need to be hyper extended a little so they will grab a little tighter as you slide them up the tube. Just as you get them seated, twist a little. They seem to seat a little at that point. I would not install any glue or other items to "help" it out.
 
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Old 12-21-13, 03:41 PM
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Welcome to the forums!

Dealing with a bit of a frustrating issue using H99T (Halo) recessed light cans-
Do you have H99IOAT, H99RTAT, or D99TAT incandescent housings?

I can't seem to get apparently compatible trim/LED retrofits (LED10DR427) to snap into place-
And I haven't been able to find an LED10DR427 trim or kit on the Halo-Cooper site. Only their RL4 series. Do you have a different number for that piece?
 
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Old 12-21-13, 03:42 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

or 2 months when their control boards fail...
Ahhhh.... I see you've had some experience with LED lighting.

I have to install some 4" recessed fixtures next week..... my favorite job.

Have you kept the cans slightly above the bottom edge of the sheetrock ?
 
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Old 12-21-13, 04:06 PM
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The trims are made by TCP, not Halo. https://www.platt.com/platt-electric...spx?zpid=26180
 
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Old 12-21-13, 04:48 PM
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Got it, thanks. Are those supposed to be compatible with Halo cans?
 
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Old 12-21-13, 06:10 PM
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IMO, no, although they will fit with adjustment. They seem to be more generic than brand specific. I like the Halo's that fit the Halo cans. Apples and apples will always fit better.
 
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Old 12-22-13, 05:39 AM
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All,

Thanks for the welcome and the quick replies- I've been lurking in the forums for several months but managed to find answers to most questions through the search function.

The cans are the Home Depot H99T incandescent units and Chandler did link to the retrofit units (I used them because I found two cases for $22/unit- considerably less than the Halo units and they provide really nice light). I've tried extending the springs, changing the contact angle on the bent section and even adding additional bends for greater lateral pressure. All can lips sit about 1/4 into the drywall- I may be able to push them up a touch more but that could go poorly...

It might be time to get clever... (somewhere my wife just shuddered...)
1. A drop of (cured) gorilla glue on the contact point to conform to the wall
2. Similar idea with solder
3. Glue/fasten a larger contact surface
4. Dremel a divot on the inside of the can at the contact point (PITA)
5 ?

Cheers,

Wyatt
 
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Old 12-22-13, 06:51 AM
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One additional data point- the H99T cans are conical, not cylindrical so the contact point is fighting an outward flare. I'm heading off to the Home 'Despot this morning to see how the made-to-fit Halo units are structured.
 
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I'm heading off to the Home 'Despot this morning to see how the made-to-fit Halo units are structured.
Sounds like a plan.
 
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Old 12-22-13, 06:33 PM
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I can't seem to get apparently compatible trim/LED retrofits (LED10DR427) to snap into place- so far 1 out of 6 is actually flush with the ceiling
There is usually a tradeoff when using aftermarket trims not specifically designed for the cans in order to get a cheaper price.
 
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Project follow up (for future flailers)- Bottom line- I would not recommend this combination of can and trim.

Frankly, it's too bad because the trim is really very nice and an excellent value (bulk ~$25/per). Currently I have 80% of the trims flush with the ceiling after much much much monkeying with the springs. The last few are off the ceiling by as much as 0.75". It's become my "hobby" to wander through the room now and again with some pliers and play with the stragglers until I start twitching and cussing.

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Wyatt
 
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