Code question: Visible GFCI for undersink device
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01-02-14, 05:04 PM
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Code question: Visible GFCI for undersink device
I'm looking for ideas on code-compliant way to GFCI protect an under-kitchen-sink receptacle but have that GFCI be visible so the trip light is easily seen.
This is for a fastened-in-place (sorta, only due to the PEX lines) UV sterilizer which is for the kitchen drinking water faucet. If the associated GFCI trips I absolutely need to know about it before I turn that faucet on. What I'd like to do is mount the GFCI right above the sink near the faucet so it's easily seen. Unfortunately that's not allowed because then the circuit is a small appliance circuit and the fastened-in-place device (the whole point) now can't be on it. Catch 22.
Here are the ideas I've come up with so far, and the problems with each:
- Feed the kitchen lights through a GFCI installed under the sink. Not acceptable because the kitchen lights aren't always on.
- Mount the GFCI above the sink at least 5.5' off the floor which I _think_ should get me out of the requirement that it be on a small appliance circuit. That would look kinda funny but it may be my best option.
- Some sort of pilot light deal in the wall. I'd rather have to look at a strangely-placed receptacle instead, I think.
Any other ideas?
This is for a fastened-in-place (sorta, only due to the PEX lines) UV sterilizer which is for the kitchen drinking water faucet. If the associated GFCI trips I absolutely need to know about it before I turn that faucet on. What I'd like to do is mount the GFCI right above the sink near the faucet so it's easily seen. Unfortunately that's not allowed because then the circuit is a small appliance circuit and the fastened-in-place device (the whole point) now can't be on it. Catch 22.
Here are the ideas I've come up with so far, and the problems with each:
- Feed the kitchen lights through a GFCI installed under the sink. Not acceptable because the kitchen lights aren't always on.
- Mount the GFCI above the sink at least 5.5' off the floor which I _think_ should get me out of the requirement that it be on a small appliance circuit. That would look kinda funny but it may be my best option.
- Some sort of pilot light deal in the wall. I'd rather have to look at a strangely-placed receptacle instead, I think.
Any other ideas?
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01-02-14, 05:25 PM
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According to 2011 code, an under sink receptacle is not required for GFCI protection. However, 2014 code will require this. (In MN the 2014 code does not go in effect until July) The other issue is the GFCI is required to be "readily accessible". This means a person will need to get to it without needing to move things and the use of tools.
Why do you need to see this GFCI? Wouldn't the fact that the appliance is not working be an indication that the GFCI is tripped?
Why do you need to see this GFCI? Wouldn't the fact that the appliance is not working be an indication that the GFCI is tripped?
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01-02-14, 05:45 PM
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You could use a faceless GFI device. The one in the pic is from Hubbell.Model # GFBF20IL
Just for the sake of argument (and depending on what I find in the wall)... would the alternative, 5.5' off the floor deal be legal for a regular GFCI? If I'm to make another hole in the wall maybe I'd like to get some utility out of it, at least. Might be a good place for a holiday wreath or emergency lighting or something, some day. But the faceless GFCI certainly is the cleanest approach; I like it.
According to 2011 code, an under sink receptacle is not required for GFCI protection. However, 2014 code will require this.
Why do you need to see this GFCI? Wouldn't the fact that the appliance is not working be an indication that the GFCI is tripped?
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01-02-14, 06:15 PM
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would the alternative, 5.5' off the floor deal be legal for a regular GFCI?
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01-02-14, 06:25 PM
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No, for the reason I mentioned. GFCI's need to be readily accessible.
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01-02-14, 06:44 PM
If you had a non-GFCI, non-switched receptacle on the ceiling of a kitchen or dining room, would that still have to be on one of the small appliance circuits?
