No box for light ??

Old 01-11-14, 10:02 AM
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No box for light ??

My neighbor has asked me to install a new light in her kitchen. When I removed the old light, I saw that it had no separate in-wall fixture box. The light fixture itself was the box. It had a circular knockout, with the typical clamp attached through the knockout. The Romex passed through the clamp, and the wiring connections were all made within the closed body of the fixture.
The light itself was attached to the wood ceiling by screws that passed though holes in the light.
The new fixture seems to be a more modern version of the old.
My neighbor is repainting the ceiling today, and I'm installing the new light tomorrow, so I have time to ask:

Is this type fixture wiring up to the most current code?

Thanks in advance!
Old 01-11-14, 10:10 AM
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Usually if the fixture comes with a 1/2" knockout hole for a connector..... it's rated as ok for splicing inside the fixture. The new fixture should have the direct wiring method listed.
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If the new fixture requires a ceiling box ,and there is only a 3/"4 hole in the ceiling, you can emplace a "old-work" gem-box.
Old 01-11-14, 04:37 PM
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You should check to see if the new fixture requires 90 degree rated insulation on the wires. Wiring before the mid to late 80s will not be 90 degree rated.
Old 01-12-14, 09:13 AM
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PJmax the new light does have the 1/2 inch knockout.

PATTBAA, I guess that I won't need the box, but thanks for the info,

pcboss, I looked at the light, the box, and the instructions that came with it, and none indicate a requirement for the 90 degree rating.

It's installed, and working fine.

Thanks to all.
Old 01-12-14, 10:41 AM
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Is it a fluorescent light? That is often the exception to what has been written.

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