220 outlet in metal box - does it need a ground?
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220 outlet in metal box - does it need a ground?
I am a first time home owner and very new to home-related electrical work, so please bear with me.
I took the faceplate off the 220v plug for my electric dryer to see how it was wired because I've been reading a book called "How to Wire a House" by Rex Cauldwell (great book, btw). What I saw surprised me a bit. The plug is 3-wire with 2 hots and 1 ground, which I know isn't to code, but my house was built in 1956, so it didn't surprise me too much. What did surprise me is that the metal box wasn't grounded with a pigtail. So I have 2 questions:
1) Shouldn't a metal electrical box ALWAYS be grounded?
2) If I go in there and ground the box for safety, is it considered an alteration that would mean I have to bring the whole thing up to code?
Thanks in advance!
I took the faceplate off the 220v plug for my electric dryer to see how it was wired because I've been reading a book called "How to Wire a House" by Rex Cauldwell (great book, btw). What I saw surprised me a bit. The plug is 3-wire with 2 hots and 1 ground, which I know isn't to code, but my house was built in 1956, so it didn't surprise me too much. What did surprise me is that the metal box wasn't grounded with a pigtail. So I have 2 questions:
1) Shouldn't a metal electrical box ALWAYS be grounded?
2) If I go in there and ground the box for safety, is it considered an alteration that would mean I have to bring the whole thing up to code?
Thanks in advance!
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The plug is 3-wire with 2 hots and 1 ground
Note residential voltages are 120v and 240v. The dryer should be 120/240v not 220v.
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BTW, you don't have a 220V receptacle for your dryer. It's a 240V receptacle.
1) Shouldn't a metal electrical box ALWAYS be grounded?
2) If I go in there and ground the box for safety, is it considered an alteration that would mean I have to bring the whole thing up to code?
BTW, you don't have a 220V receptacle for your dryer. It's a 240V receptacle.
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Just checking: O/P says two hots and a ground not neutral. If that really is a ground would it be legal for a dryer that is 120/240? If it is really a white insulated neutral would you really connect it to the box since it isn't a ground?
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If that really is a ground would it be legal for a dryer that is 120/240?
If it is really a white insulated neutral would you really connect it to the box since it isn't a ground?

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So Snoogans, we need to know exactly what you have to answer your question. Is the alleged ground bare, green, or white. Bare or green not code compliant for a dryer. If white it isn't a ground and should not be connected to the box. Or is it SE with a braided ground?
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Thanks to everyone for the input.
The ground wire is a solid, bare copper wire. The cable is NM of some type, although I didn't see what type exactly and I'm at work so I can't check until I get home.
The NM wire has a black wire, a white wire (which has red electrical tape around it), and a bare ground. The receptacle is 3 prong, and has the hot wires going to the straight terminals and the bare ground going to the "L" shaped terminal.
The ground wire is a solid, bare copper wire. The cable is NM of some type, although I didn't see what type exactly and I'm at work so I can't check until I get home.
The NM wire has a black wire, a white wire (which has red electrical tape around it), and a bare ground. The receptacle is 3 prong, and has the hot wires going to the straight terminals and the bare ground going to the "L" shaped terminal.
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The NM wire has a black wire, a white wire (which has red electrical tape around it), and a bare ground. The receptacle is 3 prong, and has the hot wires going to the straight terminals and the bare ground going to the "L" shaped terminal.
If it is really a white insulated neutral would you really connect it to the box since it isn't a ground?
This would only apply to flush receptacles mounted in a box and not to what I consider more common, the surface type receptacles.
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Can it damage my dryer?
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After doing some digging and thinking, I don't think this answer is correct. Even with a braided neutral as the 3rd wire (which used to be code prior to 1996), it comes to the same in terms of possibly electrifying other appliances or metal object in the house because both neutral and ground wires are on the same bus in the service panel. Your logic would apply then to all outlets and appliances, because they are all interconnected via the fact that all neutrals and grounds end up on the same bus in the main panel (this is taking out the complication of sub-panels, which I know need to have the neutrals and grounds on separate buses). This 240v wiring configuration is no different in that regard.
I mean no disrespect, I just want to get it straight in my head.
What I've read is that the neutral is there in a 4-wire system because some of the electronics in newer washers and dryers use 110v, not 220v. I still can't figure out exactly why the neutral being present is necessary based on the 110v stuff, but it's most likely because I don't really know enough to understand. Is it because for the 110v use there needs to be a place for the current to go when the appliance is only using one leg for the stuff that uses 110v?
I mean no disrespect, I just want to get it straight in my head.
What I've read is that the neutral is there in a 4-wire system because some of the electronics in newer washers and dryers use 110v, not 220v. I still can't figure out exactly why the neutral being present is necessary based on the 110v stuff, but it's most likely because I don't really know enough to understand. Is it because for the 110v use there needs to be a place for the current to go when the appliance is only using one leg for the stuff that uses 110v?
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A 120 volt load needs a neutral to operate. Straight 240 volt loads do not. Te return path for a 240 volt load is the opposite leg in the circuit.
The electron flow for the neutral is only going towards the panel. It is not going back to the ground screw on the device. The issue with a 3 wire setup for the dryer was that the neutral was bonded to the frame of the dryer. That put a small amount of current on the frame. If someone were touch the dryer and a surface at a different potential there was a chance of a shock.
The electron flow for the neutral is only going towards the panel. It is not going back to the ground screw on the device. The issue with a 3 wire setup for the dryer was that the neutral was bonded to the frame of the dryer. That put a small amount of current on the frame. If someone were touch the dryer and a surface at a different potential there was a chance of a shock.
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What I've read is that the neutral is there in a 4-wire system because some of the electronics in newer washers and dryers use 110v, not 220v.box-does-need-ground.html#ixzz2vaz8Cubc
Tech note: Residential voltage is 120 and 240..
Exception: Some European residential appliances built for US sales that are 240 only with 240 controls and motors but they are rare.
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A 120 volt load needs a neutral to operate. Straight 240 volt loads do not. Te return path for a 240 volt load is the opposite leg in the circuit.

The issue with a 3 wire setup for the dryer was that the neutral was bonded to the frame of the dryer. That put a small amount of current on the frame. If someone were touch the dryer and a surface at a different potential there was a chance of a shock.
So how does having a bare ground (which is my current situation, see my OP) as the 3rd wire act any differently than having a braided neutral? A wire is a wire, right? Is it because it's bare and therefore has no insulation to stop it from carrying the current to someplace else (other than the NM jacket)?
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Wrong. Almost all dryers are built as 120 volt appliances then either a gas or 240 volt heat source is added. This is true for driers even before electronics were used.
Tech note: Residential voltage is 120 and 240..

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If the dryer used SE cable the braided conductor was the neutral.
With a 4 wire setup the neutral is only for return current. The grounding is handled by the bare conductor.
With a 4 wire setup the neutral is only for return current. The grounding is handled by the bare conductor.