Toe Kick Heater confusion 240 or 120?

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Toe Kick Heater confusion 240 or 120?

I got this toe kick heater in the kitchen that died. I bought a new one and you need to wire it either 240 or 120. I have no idea what the old one was. They wired the thing to a cheap thermostat but also tied a baseboard to it. In other words the toe kick and baseboard are tied to one thermostat. All that I was left with from the old heater was a single white/black/ground. Itís also a single breaker. I could post pictures.
 
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Old 02-01-14, 11:39 AM
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If it were running on 240vac there would be a double breaker. A single breaker would only yield 120vac. I'm guessing you don't have any way of measuring the voltage at the heater.
 
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I don't but I could take a picture of the breaker which I believe it a single. Could you run a baseboard and toekick off a single 120vac breaker?
 
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CAREFULLY isolate the wires so they do not touch anything. Turn on the breaker and make sure the stat is calling for heat. Set your meter to 240 volts or higher and take a reading, one probe to each wire. This will tell you the voltage you have.

Remember to turn off the circuit at the breaker before installing the new heater.
 
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Could you run a baseboard and toekick off a single 120vac breaker?
Sure, if that's a voltage they were built to work on. In fact, if they weren't built to work on 240V, feeding them that would fry them.

What is the nameplate or sticker information on each heater?
 
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With a multimeter? Just set the thing to voltage right?

I'll get you guys all the info and pics in a bit, I just needed to know what I needed to post to help.
 
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With a multimeter? Just set the thing to voltage right?
If analog set it to the scale closest to double the expected voltage.
 
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Warning, incoming image bomb:

Shared Thermostat:
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Hookup (and where I would test)


Sticker on old Toe Kick:



One more old Toe kick:


Label on the Shared Baseboard


New Broan series 112 Toe Kick:



Broan Instructions:


Box:


My MM:



So I would set that MM on 500~ and the nodes I believe are in the correct places. Here is a link to the new Toe Kick unit on HS Broan 19-1/4 in. 1,500-Watt Kick Space Heater with Built-in Thermostat-112 at The Home Depot


Last the new one has a built in manual thermo. I imagine I can leave that all the way up and let the wall until turn it on or off.

I wont do anything until I see reply's, I got a lot better things to do tonight than die
 
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That is a 240v breaker so we don't need the measurement. Then there is this picture which I presume was the old heater:

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Yes, 500v would be fine and your leads are in to correct place.

You have a two pole breaker which indicates it is 240 volts, and the baseboard heater is marked 208/240 volts. You vary likely have a 240 volts there but it doesn't (shouldn't ) hurt to check, again, Carefully!

It appears that the unit is factory wired for 240 volts but this should be confirmed on your end.
 
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If your new heater has to be field converted to use 120V power it should be wired to use 240V. You have 240V. It should be ready to hook up.

The black and white wires that were connected to the old heater are both hot wires. Mark the white one with a bit of electrical tape or permanent marker to show that.

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Ok, but its still white to white and black to black (plus the ground) correct?
 
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Ok, but its still white to white and black to black (plus the ground) correct?
Sure. Or white to black and black to white. With single-phase 240V power one way is as good as the other.
 
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I got it done guys, heather doesnt throw off as much heat as my old one but I like that its got the separate thermo do I dont need to effectively turn the heat off in the room now. I turn the thermo in the toe kick down while that baseboard can still run.

Thanks again guys!
 
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Glad you got it working, and thanks for letting us know how it turned out.
 
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