Wiring an outdoor shed - adding an outlet halfway
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Wiring an outdoor shed - adding an outlet halfway
I'm planning on running electricity to an outdoor shed. Attached you'll see my plan for doing this. Basically, I'm going to use two 20 amp breakers from my main panel and run 12-4 direct bury cable 18" underground (within conduit - although it's not necessary) to the shed. On the shed, I'll have two more 20 amp breakers that will feed 2 circuits within the shed. Each of the first outlets on the circuits will have a GFCI receptacle. Since it's 12-4 wire, there will be a shared neutral, but the 2 breakers at the main panel will be tied together - thus making it to code (NEC 201.4). Sound okay so far?
So here's the question....
My wife wants me to put in an outdoor outlet halfway between the house (main panel) and shed. To accomplish this, can I just use bring the buried cable up to the surface at the point where the outlet goes, use one of the hot wires to supply a GFCI outlet and then continue the run on to the shed according to my plan? Or does my plan need to change now?
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So here's the question....
My wife wants me to put in an outdoor outlet halfway between the house (main panel) and shed. To accomplish this, can I just use bring the buried cable up to the surface at the point where the outlet goes, use one of the hot wires to supply a GFCI outlet and then continue the run on to the shed according to my plan? Or does my plan need to change now?
Thanks in advance.
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run 12-4 direct bury cable 18" underground
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Thanks for the reply and advice. I didn't realize that direct bury cable shouldn't be in conduit underground. I read more on the topic here BTW: http://www.doityourself.com/forum/el...e-conduit.html
Sorry, by 12-4 cable, I meant two hots, one neutral and one ground. Is that called 12-3?
I'd prefer to just put the subpanel on the shed a) so that I have a place outside to shut off power to the shed & b) I already bought the materials.
Any comments regarding whether I can install an outdoor outlet halfway along my direct bury cable run?
Thanks again.
Sorry, by 12-4 cable, I meant two hots, one neutral and one ground. Is that called 12-3?
I'd prefer to just put the subpanel on the shed a) so that I have a place outside to shut off power to the shed & b) I already bought the materials.
Any comments regarding whether I can install an outdoor outlet halfway along my direct bury cable run?
Thanks again.
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Sorry, by 12-4 cable, I meant two hots, one neutral and one ground. Is that called 12-3?
so that I have a place outside to shut off power
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Sorry, by 12-4 cable, I meant two hots, one neutral and one ground. Is that called 12-3?
You can install UF in conduit, but it is a big pain in the butt! I would recommend what Ray suggests, although you will have to dig another 6" for a total of 24" down.
Nothing wrong with the sub panel as long as it has a main, or 6 or less breakers.
Yes, you can install a receptacle halfway in the run. Just make sure to use a box big enough for 9 (or more) #12 wires. 2 for the device, one ground, 2 neutrals, 4 hots. (At least 20.25 Cubic Inch) And an in-use cover.
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Yes, you can install a receptacle halfway in the run. Just make sure to use a box big enough for 9 (or more) #12 wires. 2 for the device, one ground, 2 neutrals, 4 hots. (At least 20.25 Cubic Inch) And an in-use cover.
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Thanks guys. So the attached depicts what I'd need to do for a receptacle that's halfway.

Is this correct? Or do I need to attach the ground to the GFCI receptacle too?
Thanks again.

Is this correct? Or do I need to attach the ground to the GFCI receptacle too?
Thanks again.
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isn't the minimum breaker size to feed a sub-panel 30A
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Since you are running this as a multi-wire circuit, there is absolutely no need for the subpanel at the shed...it just complicates matters. If you want a shutoff at the shed (not required since the breaker in the main is the shutoff), do as Ray suggested and go with a disconnect (a 30A disconnect for a water heater would do), or if you want separate switches for the two separate legs of the circuit, just put in a box with two switches (technically should be 20A switches if the entire load of the 20A circuit feeds from it), each switching one of the two hot wires. From that point, the multi-wire splits to two 12-2's going to each of your 20A GFCI's.
Personally, I'd use a 20A double pole breaker in the main rather than 2x single pole breakers, even if you tie them together, if for no reason other than to ensure someone doesn't later "untie" them and re-arrange breakers in such a way that the two hot wires end up on the same leg of your service, and your neutral suddenly has the potential of 40A flowing over it...that would be bad.
Personally, I'd use a 20A double pole breaker in the main rather than 2x single pole breakers, even if you tie them together, if for no reason other than to ensure someone doesn't later "untie" them and re-arrange breakers in such a way that the two hot wires end up on the same leg of your service, and your neutral suddenly has the potential of 40A flowing over it...that would be bad.
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If you want a shutoff at the shed (not required since the breaker in the main is the shutoff
I'd use a 20A double pole breaker in the main rather than 2x single pole breakers
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