Washing box rough in, should I move this plug

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Old 05-10-14, 06:43 PM
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Washing box rough in, should I move this plug

I am roughing in a washer box for my daughter, this is the only possible place for the box. Should I relocate the existing 120v plug due to proximity to the box or is it ok where it is? If it stays should I swap the plug out for a GFCI?

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Old 05-10-14, 07:22 PM
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It is fine where it is as long as the trim will fit on the washer box. GFI protection is only needed within 6 foot of a sink unless your area a has already adopted the 2014 NEC.
 
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Given the 'possibility' for one to have to touch the plug with wet hands, it wouldn't hurt to install a GFCI.
 
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GFI protection is only needed within 6 foot of a sink unless your area a has already adopted the 2014 NEC.

Thanks PCboss,

I think we only adopted the 2012 sometime late in 2013, so I doubt they are that on the ball.

What changes does the '14 dictate for GFCI?
 
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Given the 'possibility' for one to have to touch the plug with wet hands, it wouldn't hurt to install a GFCI.
And given my daughter has the worst luck on the face of the earth, I think I will change it out, just to be extra careful and not tempt fate.
 
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Another request, I am going to run a new line to power the washing machine. There was a junction box in the same area, the junction of another circuit is now placed in the compartment on the left of the 120v plug box.

Do I ground both circuits to the box, or only the circuit that will power the plug located inside this box?
 
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Connect them all together. Unless there is a specific application that calls for an isolated ground (which you will likely never encounter), all grounds of all circuits and devices are always connected together at every box and bonded to every metallic box.

I'm a little unclear on your intentions, but you can't use that plastic piece for romex. You must use one that clamps the cable.
 
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It is fine where it is as long as the trim will fit on the washer box. GFI protection is only needed within 6 foot of a sink unless your area a has already adopted the 2014 NEC.
The OP is in Canada. .............................
 
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The OP is in Canada.
But from what I read, CEC seems to be NEC with a few little tweaks.
 
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JerseyMatt,

Thank you, when I put the 120v plug it I will bond them all to the box.

I am a little worried about the plastic clips, when I moved in here a little less than a year ago, I was tight for time (I work at a snail's pace) and I hired an electrician and he used those clips on the dryer install in the basement, 2 dishwashers and a few kitchen plugs. That was all he used. What are the limitations of those plastic wire holders?

I will pull the one I have on the upstairs dryer plug and use a clamp, thanks!
 
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Is that actually a clip? It looks like a PVC conduit adapter, which is why I said something. If it actually has some sort of mechanism that is designed to hold Romex in place, then it's fine and meets Code. I've just never seen one like that before.. The knockout clips I'm used to seeing are smaller and black.. There's nothing wrong with them in an enclosed/finished application - because they work just like the built-in clamp tab on a plastic box. I wouldn't use them on anything exposed/readily accessible though.

 
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Matt,
Those are loomex/romex specific connectors. They are designed to let the cable be pulled in to the box but not out. Makes life easier if you break a wire and need to pull in slack. Work nice for low voltage cable too.
 
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Yeah I understand what they are and how they work, I have just never seen one that looked like that. That one looks like a PVC conduit nipple. The ones I've always worked with look like the picture I posted above - they're much lower profile..
 
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Thanks guys, almost ready to close the wall up again.
Just realized it says right on the box that they are ok for 10-3.
 
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