Sylvania panel - what breaker types can I use?

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Old 07-21-14, 05:31 AM
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Sylvania panel - what breaker types can I use?

Hi, Sylvania panel. What new breakers will work on this panel?
ie. Will this Eaton Cutler-Hammer work?:
Eaton Cutler-Hammer | Plug-In Duplex/Quad Replacement Breaker - 2-1P 15A & 1-2P 40A | Home Depot Canada

Also, what is the meaning of QBH, BQL, BQLT and BQGF?

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Old 07-21-14, 06:38 AM
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That obsolete panel should be replaced.

That's a GTE/Sylvania. You will likely find a breaker to cram into that dinosaur but it would not be listed to be used with whatever breaker you find. And since that would be a code violation, I don't think anyone here will suggest an alternative for you.
 
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Old 07-21-14, 08:27 AM
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What new breakers will work on this panel?
ie. Will this Eaton Cutler-Hammer work?:
The correct U.L. Listed breaker for that panel is the Cutler-Hammer BR series breaker.

Also, what is the meaning of QBH, BQL, BQLT and BQGF?
Those are Types of Sylvania breakers that were listed for use in the panel, but Sylvania is long gone and chances are very very slim you'd find any of them. Sylvania became Challenger many years ago (around 30 years ago) and Challenger was bought by Eaton and rolled into their Cuter-Hammer division in the late '90s. Those breaker Types were exclusive to Sylvania and do not carry over to Cutler-Hammer. If you haven't yet, I think I'd start a panel replacement fund.

On closer inspection of the picture, it looks like you have a 40 circuit panel that uses bolt-in breakers so that would rule out the C-H BR series. I'd match it up to a Cuter-Hammer Type BAB bolt-in breaker and see if it's the same, I think it will be. The plug-in Quad breaker you linked to definitely will not work. If the Type BAB won't work, Cutler-Hammer also has a Type QBHW that may work.


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Old 07-21-14, 09:27 AM
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Just because CH fits doesn't make it right if they are not listed/tested for that panel.

Also is this Sylvania the predescessor to the Zinsco panels? Does it have the same safety issues as Zinsco? If I owned that panel that would be something I would be investigating.
 
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Old 07-21-14, 06:23 PM
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Just because CH fits doesn't make it right if they are not listed/tested for that panel.
True, just because it fits doesn't make it right, but check with any factory Cutler-Hammer rep and they'll tell you their breaker is the one to use. Sylvania eventually became a part of Cutler-Hammer.

Also is this Sylvania the predescessor to the Zinsco panels? Does it have the same safety issues as Zinsco? If I owned that panel that would be something I would be investigating.
No Sylvania panel or breaker was ever a predecessor to Zinsco. Zinsco was a totally separate company for many years before Sylvania acquired Zinsco and was eventually taken over by Challenger.

The OP's panelboard is a Sylvania and it takes only bolt-in breakers and it is in Canada. I would also start thinking about replacement, but I don't see it as an emergency.
 
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Old 07-21-14, 06:42 PM
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Judging by the picture, those look more like 3/4'' breakers than 1'' breakers. Could it be a bolt-on Cutler-Hammer CH?
 
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Old 07-21-14, 07:06 PM
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Could it be a bolt-on Cutler-Hammer CH?
I don't think so, Justin. The bolt-in version of the CH series breaker was a gray handled Type CHB breaker and they fit specific Cutler-Hammer panelboards. That whole series of panelboards and breakers was discontinued after Eaton acquired Westinghouse and Challenger. The CHB breaker did however share the same molded case as the CH series plug-in breaker. That distinctive hook to connect to the panel rail was the same on both breakers and would not interchange with any other manufacturer's breakers.

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