Missing panel plate?
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Missing panel plate?
There seem to be 2 panels in our house. 1 is connected to everything inside put in in 2000. The other is connected to everything outside installed maybe in the 70s.
The older one has no front plate - what can I do to make it safe?
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The older one has no front plate - what can I do to make it safe?
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what can I do to make it safe?
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No make or model printed on it!
Could I just put an aluminium plate over the top and ground it?
Could I just put an aluminium plate over the top and ground it?
#4
You can not just put a cover over it as the breakers are required to the readily accessible. If you moved the shelf there might be a label on the inside of the steel can telling you the model of the panel, or you might have to remove the cover of the main breaker.
It is a Square D QO, that we know.
Otherwise changing out the panel might be your easier, less expensive, option.
It is a Square D QO, that we know.

Otherwise changing out the panel might be your easier, less expensive, option.
#5
Before anything else the shelving unit must be moved immediately. If you had an electrical emergency you couldn't access either panel quickly.
Just for temporary personal safety only you could use foam poster board and cut openings in it for the breaker handles* and fasten it over the panel but a correct and safe fix would need to be done as quickly as possible.
*if the breakers are recessed far enough tape uncut poster board. This is only to reduce the danger of shock not fire. Do not fasten with anything more permanent then tape. Panel breakers must remain quickly and easily assessable.
Just for temporary personal safety only you could use foam poster board and cut openings in it for the breaker handles* and fasten it over the panel but a correct and safe fix would need to be done as quickly as possible.
*if the breakers are recessed far enough tape uncut poster board. This is only to reduce the danger of shock not fire. Do not fasten with anything more permanent then tape. Panel breakers must remain quickly and easily assessable.
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I know the shelf looks close but it is easy to turn the breakers off but I will move it further out.
Model seems to be QO-16-20M series T2 100A max.
What about an aluminium plate with a hinged door made into it?
Model seems to be QO-16-20M series T2 100A max.
What about an aluminium plate with a hinged door made into it?
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You may be able to get the correct cover from a supply house. I would not use foam core based on flammability concerns.
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The other is connected to everything outside installed maybe in the 70s.
The older one has no front plate - what can I do to make it safe?
The older one has no front plate - what can I do to make it safe?
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The older one has no front plate - what can I do to make it safe?
It is a Square D QO, that we know.
Model seems to be QO-16-20M series T2 100A max.
It is a Square D QO, that we know.
Model seems to be QO-16-20M series T2 100A max.
call around to some electrical supply houses asking for the names of contractors who would have old parts.
call around to some electrical contractors asking for an old cover
also asking for the names of contractors who would have old parts.
you are looking for an old man or company ....his shop place might look like a junk yard
this sd "d" qo type is the best panel brand you could have.
all you need is a cover
#12
Just googled it and came up with several pages. Here is the first one I found
https://www.google.com/search?q=Squa...40760861451742
https://www.google.com/search?q=Squa...40760861451742
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Model seems to be QO-16-20M series T2 100A max.
Here is a webpage that may be helpful to you.
What is the replacement Main Circuit Breaker for a QO16-20M, Series L8, load center? | FAQs | Schneider Electric
What is the replacement Main Circuit Breaker for a QO16-20M, Series L8, load center?
It is a Q12100TF which is now Obsolete, with no replacement.
It is a Q12100TF which is now Obsolete, with no replacement.
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Doesn't seem like there are any anywhere.
So, I could buy an aluminium cover - how easy would it be to cut holes in that to fit where the breakers and switch are?
So, I could buy an aluminium cover - how easy would it be to cut holes in that to fit where the breakers and switch are?
Last edited by qwertyjjj; 10-12-14 at 04:36 PM.
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Total shot in the dark...
You could try calling some of the larger electrical companies in your city and see if the have a cover floating around before you get into a fabricated cover. Unlikely you will find one but worth a shot. Lots of guys have old panels they've mounted onto plywood to use for temporary power.
EDIT: Didn't notice john beat me to this suggestion.
You could try calling some of the larger electrical companies in your city and see if the have a cover floating around before you get into a fabricated cover. Unlikely you will find one but worth a shot. Lots of guys have old panels they've mounted onto plywood to use for temporary power.
EDIT: Didn't notice john beat me to this suggestion.
Last edited by Mr.Awesome; 10-12-14 at 10:24 PM.