push in wire connectors - stranded wire?
#1
10-08-14, 08:47 AM
push in wire connectors - stranded wire?
These push in connectors seem to be rated differently for stranded wire?
Tool Review: Ideal In-Sure™ Push-In Wire Connectors « Home Improvement Stack Exchange Blog
How do they deal with stranded wire?
Tool Review: Ideal In-Sure™ Push-In Wire Connectors « Home Improvement Stack Exchange Blog
How do they deal with stranded wire?
#2
10-08-14, 09:21 AM
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What do you mean how do they deal with stranded wire? If the connector is listed for use with stranded wires you can use stranded, if not you are restricted to solid.
Last edited by pcboss; 10-08-14 at 01:02 PM.
#3
10-08-14, 09:28 AM
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http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63...backstab01.jpg
What leads us to believe the splices are better than backstabs, which are also UL recognized? You have a high area low force contact held by a low area high force contact with the wire in the middle. I use them for can lights, and other low current apps.
What leads us to believe the splices are better than backstabs, which are also UL recognized? You have a high area low force contact held by a low area high force contact with the wire in the middle. I use them for can lights, and other low current apps.
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10-08-14, 11:50 AM
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Do you have an older home? Those ideals aren't listed to be used with TW wire or other 60c wire....
#7
10-08-14, 12:32 PM
I read a comment like this:
Surely the connection point is just as small in a wire nut?
The problem with these connectors is the small surface area that contacts the conductor. Over time, with conductor oxidization, a high impedance connection is created. this heats up the connector, and it fails
#8
10-08-14, 12:56 PM
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No, not the same. Wire nuts create significant pressure over a significant surface area. Both gas tight to reduce oxidation and the large contact area reduces current density. The wire nut itself contains conductive metal to also aid current flow. You can hold two #12 stripped ends together by hand and get some conduction, but give it time, and that will fail.
#9
10-08-14, 06:23 PM
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How do they deal with stranded wire?
Look at page 15 in the Ideal catalog.
http://www.idealind.com/media/pdfs/c...or_catalog.pdf
#12
10-09-14, 04:48 AM
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I have/found them to be reliable. The contact area/is/different than a/ backstab on a device.
