How to bring outlets forward after installing backsplash

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Old 10-18-14, 07:40 AM
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How to bring outlets forward after installing backsplash

Just finished installing backsplash in the kitchen and the issue now is that the outlets are at the same level as the tile (pictured), so the faceplates cannot be installed properly. When I try unscrewing the outlets to bring them forward, they become loose (if you push on them with a hand, they will move back and forth). Is there a way to bring the outlets forward, so that the faceplates can be installed properly? Thank you!Name:  WP_004814.jpg
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Old 10-18-14, 07:49 AM
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Use box extensions.
Examples:

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Old 10-18-14, 07:52 AM
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Looks like you have metal boxes. The proper depth plaster rings should have been installed before the tile work.
 
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I have used these with good results. They can be found at most of the big box stores.

http://www.menards.com/main/electric...957-c-6447.htm
 
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Old 10-18-14, 07:54 AM
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Does he really need a box extension Ray? Or just some sort of spacer/shim between the existing box and back of the receptacle ears?
Shop IDEAL 10-Pack Spacers/Shims at Lowes.com
 
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Old 10-18-14, 07:58 AM
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Does he really need a box extension Ray?
Only if there is more than " exposed wall so he may not.

The old timers way was to leave the screws backed out the necessary depth then when the plate is put on it will pull the receptacle against the screw and the pressure of the plate on the wall keeps it from moving back.
 

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Old 10-18-14, 07:59 AM
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Might need longer screws too.
 
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Old 10-18-14, 08:05 AM
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The box can be setback up to 1/4" in noncombustible surfaces.
 
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Old 10-18-14, 08:16 AM
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The spacers Vic posted a link to work well. Fold them to desired thickness and use longer #6-32 machine screws.
I do this a lot in kitchens and it also helps to use metal faceplates. The metal can be tightened more against splash.
I don't know if you did the tile or a pro. The outlets should have been pulled out enough to allow tiling right up to edge of boxes.
 
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Old 10-18-14, 08:35 AM
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Thanks everyone, I did the tile myself and only realized the outlets should have been pulled out after everything was done.
 
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Old 10-18-14, 09:06 AM
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Good job anyway!

You can add some grout around edges if you have any left over.
 
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Old 10-18-14, 10:26 AM
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I'm going to second Vic's idea. Those spacers are awesome.
Or you could do like the old guys... Wrap a small chunk of scrap wire around the screw to act as a spacer, or use burr washers (#10).
http://hotkilns.com/sites/default/fi...ison-950_2.jpg
 
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Old 10-18-14, 06:01 PM
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I kind of like the Caddy Device Levellers. Box stores don't handle these, but most good supply houses do.

Device Leveler and Retainer
 
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Old 10-19-14, 04:09 AM
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The "Legos" as we call them can also be slipped over your longer screw after it is started, making it easier. They are great, but you need to watch the 1/4" clearance thingy.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 04:47 AM
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This would be your best option

RACO Plaster Ring, 4 X 4 In - G1171545 at Zoro

Although the spacers help secure the receptacle to the wall it still leaves a space between that is open.. These will close the space and provide a secure connection between the wall box and the receptacle/switch. They come in two gang also and different depths. They are available at the big box stores.

And these can be used for plastic boxes in case you have some of those. These also can be purchased at the big box stores and come in different depths.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/ReceptXte...0002/100156491
 
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Old 10-19-14, 05:37 AM
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I like the yellow extender. Too bad they aren't sold in the Atlanta market, or anywhere in a 120 mile radius, nor online.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 05:46 AM
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Yes, I like them also. I just bought yesterday at the home depot about 45 assorted sizes because I am helping my friend renovate an apartment and he is putting up sheetrock on top of existing walls which will widen the gap between the wall surface and the box surface. I even remembered to buy extra long 6/32 screws.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 07:43 AM
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I really like the idea of these plates CasualJoe posted:

Device Leveler and Retainer

I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
 
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Old 10-19-14, 03:57 PM
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I really like the idea of these plates CasualJoe posted:

Device Leveler and Retainer

I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
Yes, they work great and most guys on service trucks carry them. They are available at all supply houses that handle Caddy products, B-Line has a similar product for other supply houses. Caddy products typically aren't found in the box stores.
 
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