How to bring outlets forward after installing backsplash
#1
10-18-14, 07:40 AM
How to bring outlets forward after installing backsplash
Just finished installing backsplash in the kitchen and the issue now is that the outlets are at the same level as the tile (pictured), so the faceplates cannot be installed properly. When I try unscrewing the outlets to bring them forward, they become loose (if you push on them with a hand, they will move back and forth). Is there a way to bring the outlets forward, so that the faceplates can be installed properly? Thank you!
#3
10-18-14, 07:52 AM
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Looks like you have metal boxes. The proper depth plaster rings should have been installed before the tile work.
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10-18-14, 07:52 AM
I have used these with good results. They can be found at most of the big box stores.
http://www.menards.com/main/electric...957-c-6447.htm
http://www.menards.com/main/electric...957-c-6447.htm
#5
10-18-14, 07:54 AM
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Does he really need a box extension Ray? Or just some sort of spacer/shim between the existing box and back of the receptacle ears?
Shop IDEAL 10-Pack Spacers/Shims at Lowes.com
Shop IDEAL 10-Pack Spacers/Shims at Lowes.com
#6
10-18-14, 07:58 AM
Does he really need a box extension Ray?
The old timers way was to leave the screws backed out the necessary depth then when the plate is put on it will pull the receptacle against the screw and the pressure of the plate on the wall keeps it from moving back.
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10-18-14, 07:59 AM
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10-18-14, 08:16 AM
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The spacers Vic posted a link to work well. Fold them to desired thickness and use longer #6-32 machine screws.
I do this a lot in kitchens and it also helps to use metal faceplates. The metal can be tightened more against splash.
I don't know if you did the tile or a pro. The outlets should have been pulled out enough to allow tiling right up to edge of boxes.
I do this a lot in kitchens and it also helps to use metal faceplates. The metal can be tightened more against splash.
I don't know if you did the tile or a pro. The outlets should have been pulled out enough to allow tiling right up to edge of boxes.
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10-18-14, 10:26 AM
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I'm going to second Vic's idea. Those spacers are awesome.
Or you could do like the old guys... Wrap a small chunk of scrap wire around the screw to act as a spacer, or use burr washers (#10).
http://hotkilns.com/sites/default/fi...ison-950_2.jpg
Or you could do like the old guys... Wrap a small chunk of scrap wire around the screw to act as a spacer, or use burr washers (#10).
http://hotkilns.com/sites/default/fi...ison-950_2.jpg
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10-18-14, 06:01 PM
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I kind of like the Caddy Device Levellers. Box stores don't handle these, but most good supply houses do.
Device Leveler and Retainer
Device Leveler and Retainer
#14
10-19-14, 04:09 AM
The "Legos" as we call them can also be slipped over your longer screw after it is started, making it easier. They are great, but you need to watch the 1/4" clearance thingy.
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10-19-14, 04:47 AM
This would be your best option
RACO Plaster Ring, 4 X 4 In - G1171545 at Zoro
Although the spacers help secure the receptacle to the wall it still leaves a space between that is open.. These will close the space and provide a secure connection between the wall box and the receptacle/switch. They come in two gang also and different depths. They are available at the big box stores.
And these can be used for plastic boxes in case you have some of those. These also can be purchased at the big box stores and come in different depths.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/ReceptXte...0002/100156491
RACO Plaster Ring, 4 X 4 In - G1171545 at Zoro
Although the spacers help secure the receptacle to the wall it still leaves a space between that is open.. These will close the space and provide a secure connection between the wall box and the receptacle/switch. They come in two gang also and different depths. They are available at the big box stores.
And these can be used for plastic boxes in case you have some of those. These also can be purchased at the big box stores and come in different depths.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/ReceptXte...0002/100156491
#17
10-19-14, 05:46 AM
Chandler:
Yes, I like them also. I just bought yesterday at the home depot about 45 assorted sizes because I am helping my friend renovate an apartment and he is putting up sheetrock on top of existing walls which will widen the gap between the wall surface and the box surface. I even remembered to buy extra long 6/32 screws.
Yes, I like them also. I just bought yesterday at the home depot about 45 assorted sizes because I am helping my friend renovate an apartment and he is putting up sheetrock on top of existing walls which will widen the gap between the wall surface and the box surface. I even remembered to buy extra long 6/32 screws.
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10-19-14, 07:43 AM
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I really like the idea of these plates CasualJoe posted:
Device Leveler and Retainer
I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
Device Leveler and Retainer
I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
#19
10-19-14, 03:57 PM
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I really like the idea of these plates CasualJoe posted:
Device Leveler and Retainer
I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
Device Leveler and Retainer
I've never used them because I've never seen them. I'm surprised they're not available everywhere.
