Go Back  DoItYourself.com Community Forums > Electrical, AC & DC. Electronic Equipment and Computers > Electrical - AC & DC
Reload this Page >

2-Conductor 20+ AWG outdoor stranded wire - does it exist?

2-Conductor 20+ AWG outdoor stranded wire - does it exist?

Reply

  #1  
Old 03-30-15, 05:19 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
2-Conductor 20+ AWG outdoor stranded wire - does it exist?

I need some really thin/flimsy (as opposed to stiff) 2-conductor wire for outdoor use. I think ideally it would be somewhere around 24 AWG. It's only carrying power for a few feet from a AA battery.

I've searched and searched, called electrical supply stores, etc... I can't find anything!

Any suggestion?

Thank you!!
 
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 03-30-15, 05:58 PM
ray2047's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 33,597
Received 13 Votes on 11 Posts
Phone wire? .
 
  #3  
Old 03-30-15, 06:06 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the tip. I looked it up and it *might* work, but because it's solid, it looks like it would be too stiff. I prefer something that kind of hangs more than keep it's shape when bent. Does that make sense?
 
  #4  
Old 03-30-15, 06:25 PM
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Trumbull, CT, USA
Posts: 420
Received 3 Votes on 3 Posts
Try Cat 5 wire but be-careful because it comes in solid or stranded. I believe you want stranded wire but you probably already knew that
 
  #5  
Old 03-30-15, 06:30 PM
ray2047's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 33,597
Received 13 Votes on 11 Posts
  #6  
Old 03-31-15, 12:35 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
@CircuitBreaker
Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that. I do want stranded so that it's more flimsy. As far as Cat 5 (for exterior use), all I'm seeing are bundles of paired wire in a pretty hefty jacket. The inner wires themselves look good, but overall it is looking too bulky.
If you think I'm off base or not looking at the right thing, please let me know. But at any rate, thanks for the suggestion.
 
  #7  
Old 03-31-15, 12:39 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
@ray2047
The speaker wire would be perfect *if* it had UV rated insulation. The problem I'm seeing with speaker wire is that the pvc casing will get brittle and deteriorate over time out in the elements. Thanks for the suggestion... or if you have any others, please let me know.
 
  #8  
Old 03-31-15, 05:12 AM
chandler's Avatar
Banned. Rule And/Or Policy Violation
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 39,967
Received 3 Votes on 3 Posts
Why must it "hang"? Your original post didn't mention it was outdoors, so we have to reset. Although it is bulkier than you want, UV rated Cat5 would be your best bet. T-stat wire is solid, direct burial phone wire may work as well. Knowing what you want and why will help.
 
  #9  
Old 03-31-15, 08:25 AM
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Near Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 10,944
Received 42 Votes on 40 Posts
You could cannibalise some of the wire from ear buds. Those are really thin and quite flexible, and I assume have at least some UV resistance.
 
  #10  
Old 03-31-15, 08:34 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
@Chandler
Thanks for your reply.Yes, actually in the title of the post it says "outdoor".
As far as the 'hanging' part, I'll be more specific...

Picture a lightweight chain (maybe about the thickness of a large'ish necklace chain) dangling downward from a hanger.
Hanging from the end of the chain is a fairly light child's toy.
The wire that I'm seeking will meander in & out through the chain links from one end to the other. My goal is to do this while keeping the natural shape and flexibility of the chain and minimize wire visibility as much as possible. There will be no weight on the wire, that will be taken care of by the chain.

And yeah, the kicker is that since it is for outdoor use, I need the casing to hold up to the elements... especially since, if I achive the thinness I'm hoping for, it will probably be fairly delicate.
 
  #11  
Old 03-31-15, 08:40 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
@ibpooks
That is a great idea. That is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for... assuming it can hold up to the elements.
And the other thing is, I'm looking to buy this stuff in larger quantities. My kid thinks he wants to try selling these things he's making. So that's a great suggestion for a prototype, but ultimately, we'll need to know where to buy something like that.
But yeah, that's exactly the kind of wire I'm looking for... although I question its hardiness outdoors.
Maybe you just gave me some new ways to search for it though... or at a minimum, a better way to describe it.
 
  #12  
Old 03-31-15, 08:43 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
The funny/sad part of this, is that I actually had earbuds on while sitting at the computer and reading this... and it never even occurred to me that it is almost exactly what I'm looking for. lol
 
  #13  
Old 03-31-15, 11:07 AM
Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 1,452
Received 15 Votes on 15 Posts
Two conductor electric saver cord. It's very flexible and is 20AWG, I believe. Any first step with PVC "outdoor" rated wire is cold resistance. Many PVC cords stiffen when cold and could actually break. Put the earbuds in the freezer and try to bend them around.
Next step is UV resistance. And, you might find that working with "rope-lay" conductors is too difficult. Test leads (good ones) for DMM's ,etc, shavers, ear buds typically use the rope-lay construction. Terminations are done differently than pure copper.
 
  #14  
Old 03-31-15, 11:27 AM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
@telecomguy
Thanks, that's very useful info! I hadn't thought of the cold being that big of a factor. Makes sense though.
Are you suggesting that the wire used for electric shavers is also UV & cold resistant? Or are you saying that it has good flexibility, but still have the problem with cold & sunlight?
 
  #15  
Old 03-31-15, 01:27 PM
Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 1,452
Received 15 Votes on 15 Posts
Most shaver cord I see now is coiled. Super flexible and outdoor rated tend to be contrary. But, look at this below. Si rubber will impress you with its flexibility, especially in the 22AWG size.

#2615 Ultra-Flexible Silicone Rubber Wire UL 3132
 
  #16  
Old 03-31-15, 02:18 PM
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Received 0 Votes on 0 Posts
According to my googling, silicone wire is also resistent to temperature extremes and UV light.I think we have a winner. Thank you so much!
 
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
Ask a Question
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: