Exposed ceiling junction box - fixture doesn't cover fully
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03-30-15, 06:18 PM
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Exposed ceiling junction box - fixture doesn't cover fully
I have a light fixture that doesn't cover a standard ceiling box. Any idea what to do with it? I guess it was designed when people would just snake a wire through the ceiling.
I'd prefer not to have to rip out the ceiling...there is a pool table underneath it. Perhaps putting some painted wood or plastic on the sides? I know there are those "ceiling rosettes", but they always seem to be a circle.
I'd prefer not to have to rip out the ceiling...there is a pool table underneath it. Perhaps putting some painted wood or plastic on the sides? I know there are those "ceiling rosettes", but they always seem to be a circle.
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03-31-15, 10:54 AM
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How did you mount this fixture? It looks like it's plenty wide enough to cover opening but is off center.
I could be wrong but the fixture looks at least 4" wide or maybe a little more.
If it does need covered: One idea is to remove fixture, make a base for it out of non-combustible material. Basically fabricate a ceiling plate about 2" wider on all sides.
I could be wrong but the fixture looks at least 4" wide or maybe a little more.
If it does need covered: One idea is to remove fixture, make a base for it out of non-combustible material. Basically fabricate a ceiling plate about 2" wider on all sides.
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04-01-15, 06:55 AM
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Since the light has to be centered over the pool table, otherwise the shadows are wrong, he might not be able to shift the fixture enough to cover the box.
I'm sure that something decorative can be done to cover the hole. Maybe it's just the darkness of the picture, but I am remarkably unimpressed by the woodwork. You could easily make a new piece that would be wider (even if just in the center) that would cover the hole.
I'm sure that something decorative can be done to cover the hole. Maybe it's just the darkness of the picture, but I am remarkably unimpressed by the woodwork. You could easily make a new piece that would be wider (even if just in the center) that would cover the hole.
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04-01-15, 08:29 AM
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What type of box is in the ceiling 4"round? Can you take the fixture down and possibly put a 4" to 3" plaster ring on it and patch around it,it would still need to be painted.
Rosette's look tacky IMO.
Geo
Rosette's look tacky IMO.
Geo
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04-01-15, 10:18 AM
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Someone simply screwed the fixture into the framing instead of mounting it to the box. The fixture would have covered the box had it been installed properly.
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Thanks for the good suggestions.
The fixture is about 3" wide and it is offset to exactly hit the center of the table, as Michael suggested. Michael -- what did you mean by the "woodwork" looking unimpressive?
Handyone -- any suggestions on what to make the base out of? Sheet metal?
pcboss -- I installed the fixture...it doesn't cover the box and is attached to the framing as you suggested. It is well short of it and would have trouble even covering a 3" box given some gap in the drywall.
Geochurchi -- 4" octagon box for a ceiling fan.
The fixture is about 3" wide and it is offset to exactly hit the center of the table, as Michael suggested. Michael -- what did you mean by the "woodwork" looking unimpressive?
Handyone -- any suggestions on what to make the base out of? Sheet metal?
pcboss -- I installed the fixture...it doesn't cover the box and is attached to the framing as you suggested. It is well short of it and would have trouble even covering a 3" box given some gap in the drywall.
Geochurchi -- 4" octagon box for a ceiling fan.
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04-01-15, 11:40 AM
any suggestions on what to make the base out of? Sheet metal?
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04-01-15, 01:30 PM
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If the wiring compartment forms a box the fixture might not even require a box, similar to Hollywood bar lights.
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Michael -- what did you mean by the "woodwork" looking unimpressive?
I'd make a new piece that is wide enough to cover the hole; either rectangle or oval, and have it match the decor.
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04-01-15, 02:43 PM
The fixture is about 3" wide and it is offset to exactly hit the center of the table,
Or replace the ceiling box with a single gang switch box in the right place, fasten light to ceiling not the box with toggle bolts and patch the ceiling where the old box was..
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04-01-15, 03:58 PM
Anybody that makes a light fixture that does not connect to a standard box should have their UL listing revoked!
The fixture is about 3" wide and it is offset to exactly hit the center of the table,
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Or replace the ceiling box with a single gang switch box in the right place, fasten light to ceiling not the box with toggle bolts and patch the ceiling where the old box was..
From the photo, though, it looks like there is a joist right where that new gang box would go.
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04-02-15, 06:42 AM
The OP could replace the box with a 1/2" pancake box centered right over the joist or a saddle box that sits over the joist. A little drywall patching could do the rest.
