Staples and Romex

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Old 10-07-15, 08:46 PM
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Staples and Romex

I am having trouble stapling romex to the running boards that I installed under my floor joists. Nailing staples upside down sucks. My goggles get fogged and when I take them offf I keep getting dirt in my eyes. If I leave them on I can't see what I'm doing. That leads me to my two questions:

1) Can I use brackets on screws to secure the romex instead of staples?

2) I drove a staple through a piece of romex. I was able to remove the staple fairly easily, but how do I know if I can use the wire still? Should I just scrap it and pull another wire? It will take a fair amount of work, but I don't want to burn down my house.
 
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1) Can I use brackets on screws to secure the romex instead of staples?
Certainly. Just make sure the cable is secure.

2) I drove a staple through a piece of romex. I was able to remove the staple fairly easily, but how do I know if I can use the wire still?
Best to run a new piece. You CAN install a permanently accessible junction box and splice a new piece for the continuance of the run if the damage is not in in the middle, actually you can do it even then but the slight gain may not be worth the extra effort.
 
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I use one hole plastic straps for fastening wiring where I can't reach or see it. I put an extension on my impact gun to make it easier to put the screws in. The clips come in many different sizes/diameters.

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Old 10-07-15, 09:15 PM
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There are also staple guns for NM cable.
 
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Old 10-07-15, 09:35 PM
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Thanks for the quick replies. I'll replace the cable. Any opinions on whether I can use screw-based brackets? I think it would be easier and my hand will be a lot less tired driving screws upside down than nails.
 
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The clip I illustrated is held in place with a single screw. I use a 12" 1/4" quick release extension in my impact gun so I don't have to put the gun/drill up to the ceiling.

If you're running more than one cable.... use stackits. Replace the nail with a screw.

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Old 10-08-15, 05:47 AM
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Ray, I like those too in older homes that have old floor joists that seem to be as hard as iron beams. With new lumber, as in new construction, I always liked the old standby steel cable staple.
 
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Old 10-08-15, 07:43 AM
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I use the ones I posted because it is easier to get it tight without out damaging the sheath and well heck I can't drive staples worth a darn.
 
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I also prefer the plastic "bridge" staples that Ray illustrated. Plain round wire staples almost always bend on me. I did find a brand many years ago (Thiel or Theil) that were advertised not to bend, their slogan was "Hit 'em hard!" and they were good but I don't think I have seen the brand in decades...not that I actually look for them.

I also have found that the outer jacket on today's NM cable is nowhere near as thick or as tough as it was in the past and using staples it if far easier to damage the jacket. That problem disappears when using the plastic bridge staples. Plus, the much smaller diameter of the nails on the plastic bridges makes it much easier to nail than the larger staples.
 
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