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Exhaust fan partially over tub/shower enclosure- need verification please

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Old 11-27-15, 10:38 PM
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Exhaust fan partially over tub/shower enclosure- need verification please

I'm selling a home in which the ceiling mounted exhaust fan is partially over the tub. The fan is protected by a GFI. The buyers home inspector has called this out as a violation. I do not believe this to be in violation. Can anyone quote an appropriate verse from the NEC to confirm or deny this? The house is in Wisconsin.
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Old 11-27-15, 11:10 PM
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Unless the installation instructions for the specific fan prohibit mounting inside the tub "footprint" I see nothing wrong with the installation. Generally the only additional requirement is for the fan to be powered from a GFCI protected circuit, which you state is the case.

It COULD be a violation of LOCAL code. Remember that only local codes have any meaning.

Ask the potential buyer to have their "inspector" cite the applicable code reference stating this is a violation. More likely as not, the inspector will be unable to do so...because no violation exists. Home inspectors often go by "rules of thumb" in finding "violations" rather than an actual code reference.
 
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When I built a handicapped bathroom for my father, I had a combination fan/light installed, in the shower. I don't see how it's a violation either.
 
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Considering that the bulk of the humidity that you want to exhaust to the outdoors is generated in the tub/shower stall, the idea of insisting that the fan be located outside that area seems bizarre.

Or do they suspect people will put their fingers in the fan mechanism while they're showering ?
 
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Old 11-28-15, 09:02 AM
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The buyers home inspector has called this out as a violation.
I agree with Furd, I'd also like to see a code reference. It's not a NEC violation, but it is possible it could be a local building code violation. Till the inspector can provide a reference, no one will know what code he is talking about.
 
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Old 11-28-15, 09:15 AM
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Get the model of the fan and download the installation instructions. They will likely show the fan is approved for the wet location. As others said, local laws trump everything else.
 
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Old 11-28-15, 09:36 AM
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I understood that if the exhaust fan has a light in it then that would be cause for concern. Would have to be out of the reach of the person using the tub. Then again, I have installed fan/light kits directly above a shower I built and the inspector did not have any problem with it. It was rated for wet location including in the shower.
 
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I'm not an electrician . . . . only a Real Estate Broker; but I have designed several or remodeled Baths, and I have routinely had the Fan/Light combination installed within this area so as to force the activation of the fan IF the User wants light while they shower or bathe.

For me, retained moisture condensing in places you don't want it has always created problems. Implementing the No fan = No light policy fixes that.

No one has ever objected to this arrangement when I contracted to have an Electrician do the installation, when I had his work inspected by some Municipal Inspector, or when I got around to selling.

Maybe things have changed ?
 
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Old 11-28-15, 02:32 PM
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Thanks guys, that's kind of what I thought. I don't think their inspector really knows his stuff. We'll see if this becomes an issue for the buyer & take it from there.
Andy
 
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Old 11-28-15, 02:41 PM
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I copied this from the FAQs on the NuTone site . . .

Most NuTone fans are rated for use over a shower or bathtub with a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter). -

"I don't think their inspector really knows his stuff."
That would be my experience.
 
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Old 11-28-15, 02:47 PM
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Thanks cwbuff. The fan is a twenty year-old Nautilus, but I'm pretty sure it was made by either Nutone or Broan.
 
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