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Old 12-04-15, 07:51 PM
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Help with wiring!

Hi, since 3 weeks, I've been renovating my kitchen. An electrician has already made the "rough". Now, everything is installed, the only thing left is... putting 3 outlets for countertops and 1 dimmer for under cabinet lightning.).I thought it would be simple but damn, I just can't figure it out. I little bit of help would be appreciated. Two outlets are really simple (black,white, red and ground).
You'll find a picture of the wires. It's suppose to be the dimmer and an outlet.
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Old 12-04-15, 08:37 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

Two outlets are really simple (black,white, red and ground).
Not quite following you there.

I'm a little confused at the wiring I see in this box. This wiring IS NOT device ready. There are too many current carrying hot conductors. There should be two ground tails.

I see a neutral. That would be for the receptacle. It looks like there may be two feeds there but one is on a two wire cable and the other is on a three wire cable. You're going to need to find out which circuits feed that box and let us know. I labeled the wires awaiting your response.

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Old 12-05-15, 04:39 AM
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Is this wiring new? The wiring for the receptacle should be thicker than the lighting in most cases.
 

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Old 12-05-15, 12:28 PM
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I see four NM cables, but only one of them has a ground wire. Surely this cannot all be new wiring. The sheathes on all 4 cables are white signifying 14-2 NM-B cable. IF this is new wiring the countertop receptacles are required to be on 20 amp circuits.
 
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Old 12-05-15, 10:53 PM
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Good point Joe.... I just assumed he used old white 12-2 NM-B cable but it may be 14-2.
 
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Old 12-06-15, 06:27 AM
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That would be going back quite a few years to still have white 12 NM.
 
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Old 12-06-15, 09:47 AM
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That would be going back quite a few years to still have white 12 NM.
And a whole lot more years to have white 12-2 plain NM cable (without a ground).
 
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Old 12-06-15, 10:47 AM
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An electrician has already made the "rough"
I'm wondering/assuming that when the electrician was finished with the rough wiring, none of these wires were connected as shown?
 
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Old 12-07-15, 09:40 AM
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The OP hasn't returned since the first post 3 days ago so we may never know the answers to the questions
 
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Hi Thanks for your answers. i finally got it. For your information all cable is brand new. This was the picture of the job done by the electrician right After he finished.
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Old 12-07-15, 08:43 PM
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The biggest problem that was pointed out is that this #14 wiring is undersized for a kitchen counter receptacle.
 
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Old 12-08-15, 07:04 PM
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What happened to all the ground wires? Were they clipped off?
 
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I hope the OP has some recourse to get this fixed.
 
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I don't recognize the style of box but it looks like each ground wire goes to a captive screw.

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Old 12-09-15, 10:32 AM
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I don't recognize the style of box but it looks like each ground wire goes to a captive screw.
Possibly, I thought about that too after looking very closely, but I find it strange that I cannot see the ground wires exiting the white sheathing on most of the cables especially on the lft side. This box was for either 2 receptacles or 1 dimmer and 1 receptacle. I'd like to see how the devices were grounded. The biggest problem remains as PJ pointed out, the wiring is undersized for countertop receptacles that are required to be on 20 amp circuits.
 
 

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