Wiring in a sub panel questions


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Old 02-03-16, 05:18 PM
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Wiring in a sub panel questions

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I am looking for some advice on wiring in a sub panel to my attached garage. There is currently a 220v panel ran to the back deck to a hot tub that the previous owners have. I am looking to divert the wiring into the garage and attach a sub panel on it so I can wire in a wood shop with 220v power to run a table saw and an air compressor, as well as more 110v outlets.

The table saw is 220v 13 amp

The compressor is 220v 31 amp.

The wiring in the wall that goes to the hot tub is 6 gauge I believe. The location of this panel will be approx 35 feet to the main panel in the basement of the house. Will this wire be thick enough to supply the needed power to run the saws?
 
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Old 02-03-16, 06:16 PM
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FYI - The voltage you have/need is 120/240 volts.

Is the feed for the hot tub being used any more? What size fuse/breaker is protecting that feeder? Is the feeder two hots, neutral and a ground wire? (4 wires total)

Is that amp draw on the compressor a typo? A 31 amp, 240 volt compressor is pretty large.
 
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Old 02-03-16, 09:44 PM
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No the hot tub was gone when we bought the house so it is no longer being used.

Yes it is two hot wires, a ground, and a neutral (4 wires total. Two black, one white, one red wire)

It is a huge compressor- 240 single phase- 31 amps.

I'll double check tomorrow on the amp and the fuse size.
 
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Old 02-04-16, 03:18 AM
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Two black and a white are fine. The other conductor should be green, not red.
 
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Old 02-04-16, 10:24 AM
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The fuse is a 60 amp that goes to the previous hot tub.

The air compressor is a 7.5hp 31amp compressor.


And the wires are red,black and white. The whole house seems to be that way. It is a 1987.
 
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Old 02-04-16, 11:30 AM
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And the wires are red,black and white.
You wrote there were four wires before. Is there a ground wire? Is this continuous conduit? If no to both questions then the wiring probably can't be used.
The fuse is a 60 amp
Did you mean breaker?
 
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Old 02-04-16, 05:20 PM
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The compressor may not start on a circuit of only 50 amps. The startup current could be considerably higher.
 
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Two black 6 gauge wires, a white and a red. Four wires.

60 amp breaker sorry.

Everything in the house is in conduit.
 
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Four wires.
But missing one correct wire. You don't have a green or bare. The red can not be remarked as a ground. Only wires larger than #6 can be remarked. Tell us how the wires are connected in the breaker box. (Two black one red is strange.) Is this continuous conduit to the breaker box?
 
 

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