Electrical panel/load calculation
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Electrical panel/load calculation
I have recently moved into a home with a 100 amp panel. I'm considering upgrading some appliances and I'd like to add an additional refrigerator in the kitchen. I've been reading about load calculations, but I don't feel comfortable enough with my knowledge of the subject.
The house is approximately 1300 sq ft. Appliances include electric stove/oven, microwave, electric dryer, washer, refrigerator, electric water heater, 3 ton AC unit with heat pump. Since I've been here I've not experienced any issues with breakers tripping or anything of the sort, but I don't want to add any additional appliances if I am already very close to capacity.
I would greatly appreciate any help determining the load calculations. When I attempted, ?I got somewhere between high 80s and low 90s. What should I be looking for with a panel of this size? Thank you.
The house is approximately 1300 sq ft. Appliances include electric stove/oven, microwave, electric dryer, washer, refrigerator, electric water heater, 3 ton AC unit with heat pump. Since I've been here I've not experienced any issues with breakers tripping or anything of the sort, but I don't want to add any additional appliances if I am already very close to capacity.
I would greatly appreciate any help determining the load calculations. When I attempted, ?I got somewhere between high 80s and low 90s. What should I be looking for with a panel of this size? Thank you.
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When I attempted, ?I got somewhere between high 80s and low 90s.
that stated, your calculation (or more properly, the software or guide you used) could be significantly overestimating the load. Depending on how many other people live with you, what kind of lighting is used (incandescents, fluorescent, LED, etc.) lifestyle, especially turning off lights and other appliances when no one is using them can result in a real-life load significantly lower than the guesstimate of a demand load calculation.
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3 ton AC unit with heat pump.
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The heat pump is backed up by electric heat strips. I'm in South Carolina, so aux heat rarely kicks on. I'm the only one in the house so there are few instances in which I would actually be using appliances at once. I use the oven maybe a few times a month--generally cook in a crockpot.
Can you look at this panel and tell me if it is 100 amp?
Can you look at this panel and tell me if it is 100 amp?

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Take a photo from a little farther away so we can see the main breaker.
Or can you tell us the amps listed on the main breaker?
Or can you tell us the amps listed on the main breaker?
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If that is the only circuit breaker or fuse panel you have I'm going to go out on the limb and state that the upper left hand two-pole circuit breaker is your main circuit breaker. That would make it a 100 ampere service.
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That would make it a 100 ampere service
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From the bottom-- 50, 30-30, 30-30, 100-100
20-20, 20-20, 20-20, 20-20
At the very bottom there is a single pole with 20
From the bottom-- 50, 30-30, 30-30, 100-100
20-20, 20-20, 20-20, 20-20
At the very bottom there is a single pole with 20
The heat pump is backed up by electric heat strips. I'm in South Carolina, so aux heat rarely kicks on.
I see the 2-pole 30A breakers for the dryer and water heater and the 2-pole 50A breaker for the range, but see no breakers for the heat strips unless they are all 120 volt strips.
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As far as I know, this is the only panel. The meter outside doesn't have anything that I could identify as a panel.
Now that I think about it, there is a gray locked box underneath the meter. I assumed it was something with the power company. Perhaps that's an additional breaker?
Now that I think about it, there is a gray locked box underneath the meter. I assumed it was something with the power company. Perhaps that's an additional breaker?
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Thanks. I've seen the aux heat come on a couple of times since I've been here and I've never had any issues. I called the woman who lived here before and she said in her three years she never had any breakers trip. I don't know if that means anything but, if I understand correctly, shouldn't the breakers trip if the are overloaded?
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The breakers should trip on overload. If properly sized circuits and service are installed you should not have tripping.
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Adding an additional refrigerator is not a significant load. Replacing existing appliances with new ones will likely reduce energy usage as newer ones will be more efficient. IMO I do not see any issues with your plan with your existing electric service.
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I'm pretty sure the heat strips are 5KW but that's just going from memory when they installed the unit.
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No. There are no other panels. There has always been a 3 ton unit here with electric heat strip kit. The unit was replaced shortly before I moved in. As the breakers have never tripped, I've never been concerned about the configuration.
I know the dryer is on a 30 amp and I know the range was a 50. For some reason, I thought the water heater was on a 20, but I could be wrong.
I know the dryer is on a 30 amp and I know the range was a 50. For some reason, I thought the water heater was on a 20, but I could be wrong.
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Could you give us a close up of the alien breaker left bottom. You didn't list it in your list of breakers. Do you know what it controls?
From the bottom-- 50, 30-30, 30-30, 100-100
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I will test in the morning, but it would make sense that it could be on a 20. I'm the only one in the home and there are times I can run out of hot water if I take a longer shower. If it's on one of the single pole 20 breakers, that would mean it is only 120v instead of the 240v it could be, right?
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A 120 volt WH is a very small unit or is miswired and will not provide the recovery of a 240 unit.
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Assuming you have a 120 volt water heater, that would leave one 2-pole 30A breaker for the 3 ton A-C that might be also used to power one 5 KW heat strip. 5 KW wouldn't really be enough to heat 1300 square feet, but that might be what it is. I have seen small 2 bedroom all electric apartments with 10 KW heat before and I know their 100 amp services were maxxed out.