After reading [B][URL="http://www.doityourself.com/forum/electrical-ac-dc/53155-ceiling-fan-install-no-existing-light-fixture.html"]this fantastic post[/URL][/B] from 2001 (!), I feel much more confident in my own ceiling fan project. I am trying to do exactly what that poster was trying to do: I have 3 rooms where the 1 switch controls the top of an outlet, but I want to move to 2 switches which control a ceiling light and fan, but there's no overhead wiring currently in any bedroom. The only differences are the original setup of my switches/outlet wirings. I was hoping to post my original setup and, based on reading through that other post, what I [I]think[/I] I need to do to re-do the wiring for my new setup. Can someone look over my proposal and check that I'm not going to burn my house down when I turn the power back on? ---- First (obvs) shut off the power. [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]ROOM 1[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]Current Switch Setup[/COLOR][/B] The one switch has two 3-wire cables and one 4-wire cable. The 4-wire goes to the outlet, so I assume one of the 3-wires is from the breaker and one goes somewhere else in the room. All 3 of the [I]Whites[/I] and all 3 of the [I]Bares[/I] are tied together (but not tied to each other) and shoved in the back. All 3 of the [I]Blacks[/I] are tied together, and a feeder goes to the bottom of the switch. The [I]Red[/I] from the outlet cable goes to the top of the switch. [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]Current Outlet Setup[/COLOR][/B] The outlet has one 4-wire cable entering the box: [I]Black[/I] to the bottom right of the outlet, [I]Red[/I] to the top right of the outlet (there is no tab between the two). The [I]White[/I] goes to the bottom left of the outlet (the tab between the two is intact). The [I]Bare[/I] goes to the grounding screw. [B][COLOR="#008000"]WHAT I THINK I NEED TO DO:[/COLOR][/B] The outlet box I think I can leave alone. (1) Add a 2-switch box and drop a new 4-wire cable to go to the fan box. (2) Tie all four of the [I]Whites[/I] together, tie all four of the [I]Bares[/I] together and shove in the back. (3) Tie the [I]Blacks[/I] from the breaker, outlet, and other wire cable together - as well as the [I]Red[/I] from the outlet wire cable - together and send two feeders to the bottom of each switch. I think this should power the two switches and put both outlets in always-on mode without having to do anything to the outlet box. (4) Send the [I]Black[/I] from the fan wire cable to the top of the light switch and the [I]Red[/I] from the fan wire cable to the top of the fan switch. ---- [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]ROOM 2[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]Current Switch Setup[/COLOR][/B] The switch box has one 3-wire and one 4-wire cable coming into the box. The 3-wire must be from the breaker and the 4-wire goes to the outlet. Both [I]Whites[/I] are tied together and both [I]Bares[/I] are tied together and shoved in the back. The [I]Blacks[/I] are tied together and a feeder goes to the bottom of the switch. The [I]Red[/I] from the outlet 4-wire cable goes to the top of the switch. [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]Current Outlet Setup[/COLOR][/B] There is one 4-wire cable and one 3-wire cable coming into the box. The 4-wire comes from the outlet, and the 3-wire must continue on to other outlets in the room in always-on state. The two [I]Bares[/I] are tied together. The [I]White[/I] from the 4-wire cable from the switch goes into the top of the left side of the outlet. The [I]White[/I] from the 3-wire cable to the rest of the room goes into the bottom of the left side of the outlet. The left side of the outlet still has the connecting tab. The [I]Black[/I] from the switch goes to the screw on the bottom right of the outlet. The [I]Black[/I] to the rest of the room goes to the quick connect on the bottom left of the outlet. The [I]Red[/I] from the switch goes to the top right of the outlet. The tab is broken off on the right side of the outlet. [B][COLOR="#008000"]WHAT I THINK I NEED TO DO:[/COLOR][/B] Again, leave the outlet alone, add a 2-switch box, and run a new 4-wire cable from the switch to the fan. In the switch box, tie all 3 [I]Whites[/I] and all 3 [I]Bares[/I] together (but not to each other) and shove in the back. Tie the [I]Black[/I] from the breaker, the [I]Black[/I] and [I]Red[/I] from the outlet together, and send two feeders to the bottom of each switch. Send the fan's [I]Black[/I] to the top of the light switch, and the fan's [I]Red[/I] to the top of the fan switch. [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]ROOM 3[/COLOR][/B] Room 3 is setup exactly the same as Room 2, so the change should also be exactly the same. ==== What do you think? How'd I do?

I am having similar issues in case anyone can help. I am replacing a 30 year old intermatic timer with a new Sylvania Digital timer. my original timer has 4 wires coming from the subpanel. Red, black, white and green. from what I can tell, the red and black are hot, the white is neutral and then the ground. the new wiring diagram shows 2 lines in and the ground. no neutral. confused on what to do with the white wire.... any advice would be appreciated.