30amp dryer on 50amp power
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30amp dryer on 50amp power
Our LG DLE2516W dryer has a 10-30P plug, 3 prong, one is L-shaped. We just moved into a home that seems to have a 10-50R outlet, 3 straight prongs.
1. Am I correct that I cannot simply replace the power cord on the dryer and that the DLE2516W could not handle 50 amps?
2. I've seen adapter generators that can take a 30amp source up to 50amps. Am I correct there are no adapters that can bring a 50amp source down to 30amps?
3. Are there any other alternatives to rewiring to a 30amp breaker?
Edit: Just looked in the fusebox and the one labeled dryer is green 30amp. The outlet itself says 50 amps. How can I be sure it's 30amps? And still, I can't find any 10-30 to 10-50 adapters.
1. Am I correct that I cannot simply replace the power cord on the dryer and that the DLE2516W could not handle 50 amps?
2. I've seen adapter generators that can take a 30amp source up to 50amps. Am I correct there are no adapters that can bring a 50amp source down to 30amps?
3. Are there any other alternatives to rewiring to a 30amp breaker?
Edit: Just looked in the fusebox and the one labeled dryer is green 30amp. The outlet itself says 50 amps. How can I be sure it's 30amps? And still, I can't find any 10-30 to 10-50 adapters.
Last edited by haplo888; 08-04-16 at 02:29 PM.
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Fuse boxes don't have breakers. Breaker boxes have breakers. Use a multimeter to check for power at the the suspected dryer receptacle. If it goes dead when the 30 amp breaker is turned off then it is on a 30 amp breaker. You will need to change the receptacle to 30 amps. If the receptacle box has a ground wire in addition to a neutral or is connected with metal cable or metal conduit you will need to convert your dryer to four wire following manufacturers directions and use a four wire cord set.
You probably won't. You need to change the receptacle and if a separate ground and neutral use a NEMA 14-30R with appropriate cord set.
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And still, I can't find any 10-30 to 10-50 adapters.
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Just looked in the fusebox and the one labeled dryer is green 30amp. The outlet itself says 50 amps. How can I be sure it's 30amps?
With dryer breaker on make sure you get power at the outlet is question.
With dryer breaker off make sure you get no power at the outlet.
Now you are sure that 30A dryer breaker is correctly labeled.
You can simply replace 50A outlet with correct type of 30A outlet. You can keep the same wire as long as it is at least 10AWG.
You probably won't be able to find an adapter unless you make your own. But replacing the outlet will be much cheaper and easier.
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Get a multimeter or non-contact tester
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It is not a good idea to construct or possess a cord or adapter with a 50 amp (male) plug and a 30 amp (female) receptacle unless there is a box in the middle with a 30 amp circuit breaker.
The 30 amp plug on the dryer implies that the power source must be a 30 amp circuit of the same voltages. You may not substitute a higher amperage plug or power cord.
Although the dryer will work normally and correctly if you succeeded in connecting it to a 50 amp circuit, that would be against code. In the event of certain kinds of malfunctions there would be an added safety hazard or fire hazard if the dryer had 50 amps at its disposal.
While you might obtain and use "plain" adapters that allow plugging higher amperage appliances into lower amperage receptacles, it is also against code to install higher amperage wall receptacles on lower amperage branch circuits.
The 30 amp plug on the dryer implies that the power source must be a 30 amp circuit of the same voltages. You may not substitute a higher amperage plug or power cord.
Although the dryer will work normally and correctly if you succeeded in connecting it to a 50 amp circuit, that would be against code. In the event of certain kinds of malfunctions there would be an added safety hazard or fire hazard if the dryer had 50 amps at its disposal.
While you might obtain and use "plain" adapters that allow plugging higher amperage appliances into lower amperage receptacles, it is also against code to install higher amperage wall receptacles on lower amperage branch circuits.
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As for accuracy, aren't we looking for a binary result, whether there is voltage or not when the breaker is thrown? Not actually testing the current, as most multimeters wouldn't go up to 50A.
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I've confirmed that the "Dryer" breaker cuts power to the receptacle in question. Is it sufficient that the breaker says 30 on it for us to know that it's 30A? I assume the color-coded tabs are replaced when a different amperage breaker is used?
The neutral in the receptacle is twisted aluminum wires without insulation. See attached photo. ray2047, is this what you meant by metal cable or conduit?

If not, and I don't need 4 wires, would this receptacle work as a replacement?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The neutral in the receptacle is twisted aluminum wires without insulation. See attached photo. ray2047, is this what you meant by metal cable or conduit?

If not, and I don't need 4 wires, would this receptacle work as a replacement?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Is it sufficient that the breaker says 30 on it for us to know that it's 30A?
ray2047, is this what you meant by metal cable or conduit?
*Metallic cable is cable is cable that has a metal sheath like BX cable.

Metal conduit looks like metal pipe and has individual wires in it.

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The orientation of the 2 lives, red and black, shouldn't matter right?
I saw a schematic that seemed to suggest the X, Y, were switched between a 10-30 and a 10-50. But it wouldn't make any difference because both the red and black are live 120v, right?
I saw a schematic that seemed to suggest the X, Y, were switched between a 10-30 and a 10-50. But it wouldn't make any difference because both the red and black are live 120v, right?
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The orientation of the 2 lives, red and black, shouldn't matter right?
it wouldn't make any difference because both the red and black are live 120v, right
