Installing an Insteon Wifi Switch and Converting a 3 way switch to an outlet
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01-04-17, 11:27 PM
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Installing an Insteon Wifi Switch and Converting a 3 way switch to an outlet
Hello,
My kitchen lights have a 3 way switch. There are two separate switches.
Switch A on the left ( I would like to convert this into a power outlet)
Switch B on the right (I would like to install the insteon wifi switch 2477)
Please guide me on the correct wires to the New Insteon switch and outlet. I am unsure which wires to 'cap off'.
attachment 1: The New Insteon switch ( 1 red(load), 1 black(line), 1 neutral and 1 copper
attachment 2: Switch B on the right (2 black wires, 1 red wire, 1 ground wire, and I believe neutral wires in the back of the box)
Attachment 3: Switch A on the left ( 2 black wires, 1 red wire, 1 ground wire, and I believe neutral wires in the back of the box)
attachment 4: Kitchen lights
thanks,
My kitchen lights have a 3 way switch. There are two separate switches.
Switch A on the left ( I would like to convert this into a power outlet)
Switch B on the right (I would like to install the insteon wifi switch 2477)
Please guide me on the correct wires to the New Insteon switch and outlet. I am unsure which wires to 'cap off'.
attachment 1: The New Insteon switch ( 1 red(load), 1 black(line), 1 neutral and 1 copper
attachment 2: Switch B on the right (2 black wires, 1 red wire, 1 ground wire, and I believe neutral wires in the back of the box)
Attachment 3: Switch A on the left ( 2 black wires, 1 red wire, 1 ground wire, and I believe neutral wires in the back of the box)
attachment 4: Kitchen lights
thanks,
#2
01-05-17, 08:09 AM
We'll need some more information before we can proceed. First off, the Insteon switch is not compatible with a traditional 3-way switch circuit. You can either reconfigure the circuit to have only the Insteon switch or you can use an Insteon switch at each location, but you can't have one Insteon switch and one standard switch.
Next, there are several ways a 3-way circuit can be wired. We'll need to know how yours is. A few possible examples (--- 2 cdr cable, === 3 cdr cable):
---power---switch1===switch2---light
---power---light---switch1===switch 2
---power---switch1===switch2
---light---/
It is important to know the configuration, because there is unlikely to be a neutral wire at each location. Only some of the boxes will be able to power the Insteon switch.
Next, there are several ways a 3-way circuit can be wired. We'll need to know how yours is. A few possible examples (--- 2 cdr cable, === 3 cdr cable):
---power---switch1===switch2---light
---power---light---switch1===switch 2
---power---switch1===switch2
---light---/
It is important to know the configuration, because there is unlikely to be a neutral wire at each location. Only some of the boxes will be able to power the Insteon switch.
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01-05-17, 08:24 AM
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Instead of buying 2 Insteon switches , I opt to just buy 1....and convert the switch 2 into an outlet 
so at the moment
I would rather just have 1 insteon switch to operate the light.
right now in terms of the configuration, right now the two switches can turn on the lights, so it is more of :
---power---switch1===switch2---light
so at the moment
I would rather just have 1 insteon switch to operate the light.
right now in terms of the configuration, right now the two switches can turn on the lights, so it is more of :
---power---switch1===switch2---light
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01-05-17, 09:27 AM
If I understand your wiring this would be the basic connection. If I am wrong on your wiring post back all corrections.
Other switches in the box remain connected as before. That probably means you will add two pigtails to the incoming power to supply the other switches in the first box and connect all neutrals together.
Other switches in the box remain connected as before. That probably means you will add two pigtails to the incoming power to supply the other switches in the first box and connect all neutrals together.
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01-06-17, 08:48 PM
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thank you for the input Ray.
So...after multiple tries...I just couldnt do it....I decided to go the lazy route, basically turn the 3 way switch into a 1 pole switch...and its working great now.
I closed the other end (outlet) just connecting the power and line together. Neutral already connected. Red wire is travel wire..didnt need it.
Dumb question though...can i just "cap" the copper wire (yellow cap)? or should i find a way to ground it?
So...after multiple tries...I just couldnt do it....I decided to go the lazy route, basically turn the 3 way switch into a 1 pole switch...and its working great now.
I closed the other end (outlet) just connecting the power and line together. Neutral already connected. Red wire is travel wire..didnt need it.
Dumb question though...can i just "cap" the copper wire (yellow cap)? or should i find a way to ground it?
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01-06-17, 09:18 PM
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can i just "cap" the copper wire (yellow cap)? or should i find a way to ground it?
If it's a spare..... not needed.... just tuck back into the box. Capped is ok.
