4-11/16" Electrical Box

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4-11/16" Electrical Box

I have an electrical box (photos inserted below).
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It is likely from 30yrs ago, but I cannot determine anything.
It measures 4 11/16" width and height, unlike modern 4" boxes.
The knockouts are 1/2"

You might notice there are 9 12-2 wires going in, plus a doorbell.
It is not even close to code, and I recently opened it for the first time ever.
I found that pretty much every wire goes in the same wire nut, and the previous person had taped the nuts on, since they won't stay bey themselves.

I am going to change the weren't config or get those "push-in" connectors.
But...I need an extension ring for this box, since I am not at all interested in replacing the whole thing.

After much searching all I found was this and this.

Unfortunately, you cannot buy the extension ring on Eaton's website.
I have Home Depot and Lowes near me.

Has anyone else previously seen this box size/know where I can get an extension ring?

Thanks in advance,
Austin
 
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Home Depot says "Shipping is unavailable for this product" and "This item is not available in any stores within 100 miles of XXXXX."

I am continuing to look, will post back when I find one, just for future reference.
 
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While they are not as common as 4x4 boxes, we use those boxes all the time. They are great and give you more room then a 4x4 box. Extension rings are a little harder to find retail but any electrical supply will have them.

Google "11b extension ring" or "4 11/16 extension ring"

If we knew your location we could likely find a source of you.
 
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Here's an online source for that item. They have both drawn and welded. Either should work, but since your box is welded the welded version might fit a little better.

4-11/16 Inch Square Boxes | Garvin Industries
 
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Thank you for the help.
Garvin Industries has the item but it is $4 plus $12 shipping.
eBay has is for $3 plus $6.

I think I'll do the eBay one.

As common as it (the extension rings) might be, Home Depot and Lowes don't have it so...

And fyi, in case you have other ideas, I'm in the New London CT area (06320)
 

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I've gone ahead and ordered the extension ring from eBay.

While I'm at it. There are 8 (I think) 12ga wires in each wire nut (2x).
The wires are not actually in it, wire nut simply taped on (not my work, don't worry).

I am looking at using an 8-port or similar "push-in" connector.
Is this the best option, when there are so many?
 
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There are 4 electrical supply houses in New London CT https://www.google.com/search?q=New+...i:2,lf_pqs:EAE

Ebay one works too.

You could use big blue wire nuts. If the wires are twisted together, the wire nut just keeps them in place and insulate them from touching something they shouldn't. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-454...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds
 
 

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