No main breaker?
#1
No main breaker?
Is this one of those panels where one of the double pole breakers shuts off other breakers below it? The six throw rule or whatever it was called?
I'm wondering how to shut this off completely for a) emergencies b) checking circuits.
It looks full. I'm also wondering if I should upgrade it to a newer panel?
I'm wondering how to shut this off completely for a) emergencies b) checking circuits.
It looks full. I'm also wondering if I should upgrade it to a newer panel?
#2
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#3
Click on the image. I'm on mobile and it doesn't allow me to use the DIY upload process.
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Last edited by PJmax; 11-06-17 at 10:44 PM. Reason: added picture from link
#6
Doesn't look like a split bus as most have a gap between upper and lower breaker sections. Check to see if there is a disconnect upstream/at meter.
Also - none of the double pole breakers appear to be labeled for a "lighting" section.
Also - none of the double pole breakers appear to be labeled for a "lighting" section.
Last edited by Astuff; 11-06-17 at 07:11 AM.
#8
Can't really tell from looking at the cover. I'm suspicious that it might be a split bus, which means there isn't really a main disconnect. It might be a main lugs panel, in which case there may be a disconnect or fuse upstream, perhaps built in to the meter.
#12
The submaster breaker for the bottom section of a split bus panel is sometimes referred to as the "lighting" breaker. At any rate all of the breakers should be labeled.
Like in a panel with a single master breaker up top, the bottom part of the split bus panel is split between the two legs of the 120/240 volt service so the "lighting" breaker will be a two pole breaker.
Lights and small appliances will not (may not) be connected directly to a circuit coming into the top half of the split bus panel unless the breaker up there for that circuit is 20 amps or less (usually compromises the flexibility of the panel) or unless there is a subpanel downstream on that circuit.
A panel that is not a split bus panel and that does not have a master breaker up top is called a lug panel. If it has more than six breakers, then it must have a master breaker rated for the panel amperage rating somewhere, for example at the meter if the feed comes directly from there.
Like in a panel with a single master breaker up top, the bottom part of the split bus panel is split between the two legs of the 120/240 volt service so the "lighting" breaker will be a two pole breaker.
Lights and small appliances will not (may not) be connected directly to a circuit coming into the top half of the split bus panel unless the breaker up there for that circuit is 20 amps or less (usually compromises the flexibility of the panel) or unless there is a subpanel downstream on that circuit.
A panel that is not a split bus panel and that does not have a master breaker up top is called a lug panel. If it has more than six breakers, then it must have a master breaker rated for the panel amperage rating somewhere, for example at the meter if the feed comes directly from there.
Last edited by AllanJ; 11-07-17 at 06:33 AM.
#14
however, this is rated 100A and the sub panel is rated 125A
That is fine. The sub panel is rated higher then what it is fed with. If it was a 70 amp panel that was protected by a 100 amp breaker you would have an issue.