Orange cable?
#1
09-23-18, 06:35 PM
Orange cable?
Is cable like this still legal or does it need to be replaced when renovating?
it's copper wire bit no markings at all on the cable. Wires seen to be wrapped in some sort of brown layer then insulation.
it's copper wire bit no markings at all on the cable. Wires seen to be wrapped in some sort of brown layer then insulation.
#3
09-23-18, 06:50 PM
Group Moderator
That cable most likely has a ground but it will be smaller than the current carrying conductors.
#6
09-23-18, 07:17 PM
Cloth covered non-metallic (NM) cable was used a while back, I think beginning in the 60's. As long as it's in good condition, there's no real reason it needs to be replaced. The wire is actually rubber-coated, so it's much safer and lasts longer than cloth covered wire (which often disintegrates).
The only real issue with this older wire is that it's rated at only 60deg. Newer NM-B/Romex is rated at 90deg. Some light fixtures, especially those with enclosed bulbs may require 90deg wiring. It's less of an issue these days with LED lamps, but it's something to be aware of.
Also, as Pete mentioned, the ground is typically a smaller gauge. Not code compliant for new installations, but really shouldn't be much of an issue for existing installations.
The only real issue with this older wire is that it's rated at only 60deg. Newer NM-B/Romex is rated at 90deg. Some light fixtures, especially those with enclosed bulbs may require 90deg wiring. It's less of an issue these days with LED lamps, but it's something to be aware of.
Also, as Pete mentioned, the ground is typically a smaller gauge. Not code compliant for new installations, but really shouldn't be much of an issue for existing installations.
#7
09-24-18, 08:38 AM
What constitutes new? 
As I understood it if I extend a circuit and I find this cable, I have to upgrade since it's not nmd90.
If I just replace a receptacle with no extension of circuit then I can leave as is. Though having receptacles run off nmd60 may not be good.
As I understood it if I extend a circuit and I find this cable, I have to upgrade since it's not nmd90.
If I just replace a receptacle with no extension of circuit then I can leave as is. Though having receptacles run off nmd60 may not be good.
Last edited by qwertyjjj; 09-24-18 at 10:15 AM.
