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UF-B I just trenched to shed is missing the ground - Now what?

UF-B I just trenched to shed is missing the ground - Now what?

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Old 11-27-18, 06:35 AM
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UF-B I just trenched to shed is missing the ground - Now what?

I just burried about 75 feet of 12/2 UF-B to my shed from the back of my garage. I didn't realize the ground was missing until I was done and started to open the cable up to connect it.

The package clearly says 12/2 with ground. I'm going to call Southwire and complain. But what now?

I really only planned on an outlet or two and a couple lights?

I guess I can run everything thru a GFCI in the shed. Or would I be better off pounding a ground rod at the shed?
 
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That's a pretty major quality hit for Southwire. How far back in the jacket did you look?
A new ground rod will not fix this issue.
 
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Old 11-27-18, 07:03 AM
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It's gone at both ends of what I put in, and my remaining cuttings. I thought at first it was just pulled out, but upon a closer look there isn't even a void in the jacket for it. I have some pics on my phone I'll try to upload here in a few.
 
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Expect the seller to take back the cable and give you full credit or refund even though the cable "has been installed and used and possibly cut." It is defective in manufacturing, labeling or packaging.

I do not think that there is any legitimate AC power use for that cable although it would make good speaker cable.
 
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Pictures will definitely be good. I wonder if they packaged landscape wire in wrong packaging?
 
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Old 11-27-18, 11:34 AM
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Pics.. The jacket definitely looks like normal UF-B, inner conductors feel like normal #12 conductors..

Tried calling southwire twice but can't seem to get ahold of anybody knowledgeable. Filled out their web form for defective product.





 

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Old 11-27-18, 11:53 AM
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Wow..... that's a first. It's the wrong product in that package as they do manufacturer two and three wire UF without a ground.

SouthwireŽ copper UF-B cable is manufactured as a 2 or 3 conductor cable, with or without a ground wire. Copper conductors are annealed (soft) copper, solid or compressed stranded. Phase conductors are polyvinyl chloride (PVC) insulated, nylon jacketed, color coded for identification purposes. Jacketed with sunlight, moisture and fungus resistant gray PVC
 
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Interesting. I couldn't find one without a ground. Wonder what the use is there?

So all this aside, all I really plan on using this for in the shed is a battery tender, and a couple lights.

What's the thoughts on just using plastic boxes and not worrying about it? I'll feed it thru a gfci for a little extra safety measure and slap the ungrounded outlet sticker on it.
 
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I don't think there is much use for an un-grounded circuit today but I am not an electrician but I see no harm as long as there is nothing metal on the battery tender and use plastic boxes and those porcelain or a plastic keyless/pullchain fixture. I would GFCI protect the wire where it leaves the breaker panel
 
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Where did you buy that stuff?
 
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Old 11-27-18, 08:56 PM
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that's a first. It's the wrong product in that package as they do manufacturer two and three wire UF without a ground.

For what code compliant purpose would UF-B cable be manufactured without a ground?
 
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My only thought was low voltage lighting.
Maybe it's for those who like to pull it into metal conduit.
 
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Having been installed yesterday, it is not grandfathered as an old ungrounded circuit equippable with ground fault circuit interrupter. It will not pass code.
 
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Old 11-28-18, 09:39 AM
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My only thought was low voltage lighting.

It would certainly work, but there is 14-2 and 12-2 low voltage cable available that's a lot less expensive than 600 volt rated ungrounded UF-B cable. There must be a market for it if Southwire makes it.
 
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Adding to the curiosity, this product listing from Southwire shows the UF-B without ground as only available in 12AWG, 2 or 3 conductor. So whatever market it's for, it's quite specific about the wire size.
 
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