Two switch wiring help


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Old 10-13-19, 01:34 PM
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Two switch wiring help

Recently purchase a new house built in 1995. I was updating the light switches and came across a challenge which I’m hoping to get help with. I’ll upload the pic of how it was wired before and switch one used to have a timer switch for outside, and switch 2 never worked. Here is what I’m left with.

Wire One for Outside Lights: White/Black Wire. Black wire isn’t hot
Wire Two No Clue: White/Black/Red/Ground
Wire Three for stair lights: white/black/red/ground

It seems like I would need a two way switch for Wire One, connecting black wire to another hot black, and then a three way switch for Wire 2 and Three.

Any thoughts how I can get this fixed. Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 02:28 PM
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Switch one looks like a 4 way. Switch 2 is a single pole.

Do you have two other switches that operate the same light as switch 1?

the black feeding both switches is the line feed in.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 02:34 PM
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Welcome to the forums.

It may be a case where they used the push-ins and the screw terminals.
We're going to need to see a picture or two...... How-to-insert-pictures.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 03:28 PM
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Looks like both switches were using pushed in. Hope this helps.

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Old 10-13-19, 03:32 PM
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That makes sense. I only know of one switch to turn on the lights but I’m in the dark as well. I’ve tried all the switches that I know of in this house and they all work separately so I’m clueless. From your post seems like I should get a four way switch and a single pole and give it a shot again. Thanks.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 04:00 PM
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Here is a diagram from the manufacturer. This makes sense a little. I have a porch light and two lights on the outside of the garage. Seems to me before one switch was controlling all the lights and now one switch would control the porch light and another for the garage. Just guessing here so any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. I wonder if the city would have any plans how this house was wired. Thanks.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 05:06 PM
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In your picture the wire labeled load black is actually the hot black. It is supplying power to the two switches.
The white on the switch is probably for the timer function
 
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Appreciate everyone’s help with this matter. I was able to figure out everything and all is working now. Thanks.
 
 

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