Defective Eaton BR load center?

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Old 10-13-19, 05:29 PM
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Defective Eaton BR load center?

This is Eaton 125A 12 Space 24 Circuit main lug panel sold at Home Depot.

However, it doesn't have a notch in the middle of the tab on bus bar.
I thought this panel was defect. However, 2 other panels sold at different home depot has same bus.
This will not allow CTL tandem breaker and as far as I know, non-CTL breakers are to be used as replacement for old non-CTL load center only.

Is there something I don't know about?

Eaton had bunch of bad batches?
 
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Old 10-13-19, 06:19 PM
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You are correct about the non-ctl breaker usage.

As far as the notch, I don't know.
 
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Old 10-13-19, 10:38 PM
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Class CTL
National Electrical Code Paragraph 384.15 requires branch circuit panelboards to be provided with physical means to prevent the installation of more overcurrent devices than that number of which the enclosure was designed, rated and approved. Class CTL Duplex, Quadplex and twin breakers (identified by a catalog number prefix BD, BQ, BQC and CHT) are equipped with a UL listed rejection tab over the line terminal. All OEM interiors have appropriately notched stabs to accept these rejection tab Class CTL breakers.

Duplex, Quadplex and twin breakers manufactured without the rejection tab (identified by a catalog number prefix BR, BRD and CHT) are available for replacement purposes in older interiors.


So that would make those old interiors.
BR and BRD are listed on your panel schedule as approved breakers.
Possibly they can be used since the panel can take all tandem breakers ?

Eaton- loadcenters and circuit breakers
 
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I guess non-CTL breakers should be allowed in this panel since it allows tandem breakers in all spaces?
Although, this panel itself may be in violation of NEC.
Or is it not in violation since all spaces allow tandem and therefore class CTL is irrelevant?

This is a brand new panel even has plug on neutral feature. It is funny how the bus bar itself is not NEC compliant.
 
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Old 10-14-19, 08:17 PM
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Non-CTL breakers are for replacement use only.
 
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8 neutral screws on a 24 circuit panel is underwhelming...
I guess they are trying to force breakers with the neutral feature.
 
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Better pic shows 18 neutrals as left and right are bonded together and separate ground bar -

Looks like Eaton is doing something different as footnote in catalog states non-CTL breakers are "Suitable for use in plug-on neutral style loadcenters."
 
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So, now they are putting non CTL breakers on PON panels?
Maybe they are trying to make more money since non-CTL tandem breakers are more expensive?
 
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So, now they are putting non CTL breakers on PON panels?

I don't think so, I think it's a factory mistake. If you look closely on the label at what breakers can be used in this panel both BD and BRD breakers are listed and both those types have the rejection clips that require the bus to be notched for them to fit, but we can clearly see the bus isn't notched. I believe I'd call Eaton on this one.
 
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