Receptacle upgrade/product applicability
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Receptacle upgrade/product applicability
I am trying to upgrade a combo switch/receptacle and would like a clarification. The new receptacle has separate spots for 2 each hot/white and the current one has 3 of each going into it, each with its own home. I'm not 100% on how this is managed.
I can take additional photos if required. The switch is single pole and has paired leads.
I can take additional photos if required. The switch is single pole and has paired leads.
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The bottom/left red/blk get pigtailed. Don't forget to break off the hot side shorting jumper. The neutral side is hidden in the view, not sure about that side on the jumper.
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Yes, but i can pigtail any of them?
Just a note the new one can NOT be a GFCI. That is a split wired receptacle and should be fed from a double pole breaker.
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Note carefully the area between the two brass screws and the two silver screws on the existing recept. There will be either a jumper or evidence of one ripped out. This separates the bottom and top circuit.
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I guess I'm pooched, i wired it up and had nothing, replaced it with an updated but plain receptacle in the same configuration as the old one and it lit right up.
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You can't use that device in your application.
From the Leviton site.
From the Leviton site.
Do the Leviton USB In-Wall Chargers have a breakoff tab for split power applications?
No.USB In-Wall Chargers cannot be used for split power applications.
No.USB In-Wall Chargers cannot be used for split power applications.
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Well poop. I have it all wired back up with nicer updated receptacles but that is just that one spot on the kitchen counter that everyone plugs thier phone or iPad or whatever into. I can still use it elsewhere i guess.
Thanks to all that assisted
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Your other option is to get rid of the split power.
It used to be code for kitchen receptacles but that was removed from the code years ago. At least in my neck of the woods.
Of course it depends if you will have room in the box for a wire nut to terminate the wire you will not use,
It used to be code for kitchen receptacles but that was removed from the code years ago. At least in my neck of the woods.
Of course it depends if you will have room in the box for a wire nut to terminate the wire you will not use,
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It's pretty tight in there, these new receptacles have far more body to them and as you can see with the USB one, it's massive. But I'm open to giving it a try if I can understand the requirements properly.
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Using the third picture as reference.
Lower white gets terminated with a small wire nut.
Lower red and black get connected together with a wire nut,
Upper black and white should come from the same input wire, check that this is true.
Copper gets connected to the green screw
Upper black to the gold screw
Also I like to do a couple wraps of electrical tape around the receptacle body so that the terminals are covered.
Upper white to the silver screw.
Lower white gets terminated with a small wire nut.
Lower red and black get connected together with a wire nut,
Upper black and white should come from the same input wire, check that this is true.
Copper gets connected to the green screw
Upper black to the gold screw
Also I like to do a couple wraps of electrical tape around the receptacle body so that the terminals are covered.
Upper white to the silver screw.
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That works; the one downside is that you are now have only one circuit available to that new recept; before, there was two.
I, myself wrestled with USB charging near the kitchen, and decided not to have things charging in a potentially wet area. I found a better place in the breakfast nook, at its own, dry counter. I think the loss of a circuit to the kitchentop counters is not desirable.
Is this job near a sink? What is the canadian rule with GFCI's here?
I, myself wrestled with USB charging near the kitchen, and decided not to have things charging in a potentially wet area. I found a better place in the breakfast nook, at its own, dry counter. I think the loss of a circuit to the kitchentop counters is not desirable.
Is this job near a sink? What is the canadian rule with GFCI's here?
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It's is near a sink, but not dangerously so. People have been using this spot as a changing area for many years, I'm not so worried about that type of risk.
The breakers this split receptacle are on are joined:
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The breakers this split receptacle are on are joined:
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Canada allow split wired 15 amp receptacles in kitchens. That's more power than a 20 amp circuit. They also allow 20 amp non split circuits. Non split 15 amps are not allowed. As a compromise to allow GFCI you are permitted to modify an existing circuit and have two 15 amp duplexes instead of one split one.
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I certainly have better long term plans for the electrical in the house. It is thankfully a 200a box, the house had a hot tub before i bought it (long gone now), but the circuits are arranged strangely: I'd like to update it all to make more sense but for now I'm just working with what i have.
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Thanks. I like these Levitron switches and receptacles because you can get these screw-free wall plates to fit them and they really do make for a cleaner look. Slowly replacing everything in the house with them.
I liked the idea of USB-C in the receptacle as well, now that all new devices are going that way. Wife wants iPhone 11 for Christmas and I'm sure they are USB-C now so the timing was good. Both USBs are 5v charging, and I far prefer this idea to having some ugly adapter into the outlet, etc.
I liked the idea of USB-C in the receptacle as well, now that all new devices are going that way. Wife wants iPhone 11 for Christmas and I'm sure they are USB-C now so the timing was good. Both USBs are 5v charging, and I far prefer this idea to having some ugly adapter into the outlet, etc.
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Wife wants iPhone 11 for Christmas and I'm sure they are USB-C now
Still a nice receptacle though!
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Well, adding electronics into receptacles that touch telecom/cellular/laptops will guarantee they get replaced before their 10 year birthday. 👍 Due to obsolescence at least. The life of standards is rapidly approaching 5 years. Right around the corner are smarter USB with more agile/higher current capability.
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No argument there, or resistance (no pun intended). Our devices are now the leading edge of consumer technology. We replace and update them willingly on a very regular basis; plugging them into receptacles that are decades old is not ideal. In my work I've had this conversation a number of times and it's not always well received. "Electricity hasn't changed", stuff like that. They way we consume it has changed incredibly.