Burnt Neutral
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Burnt Neutral
Need to reconnect a burnt neutral to panel.
Power went off on a GFCI circuit. GFCI receptacle would not reset. (Also noticed that it was a 20 amp GFI receptacle on a 15 amp breaker.) Went to replace GFCI with a new one and could not get it working. Testing made it appear that I had an open neutral. Traced back to breaker and found out that the neutral had been doubled up on a screw on the neutral bus bar and had burned or melted. (Thought you were only supposed to have one neutral wire per screw). Neutral was no longer even attached. Went to fix and realized that the neutral bar had no room as it is filled (with neutrals). (Ground bar has at least one open spot). Now, way past my pay-grade of handy grandpa. Time to call in a pro but want to figure out what direction I should go for a low budget solution. I'm just north of Atlanta in Fulton County.
I thought about: Don’t know if a neutral bar add-on extension can be added on to an older panel or how expensive that would be. Or maybe move a circuit to sub-panel tandem circuit to open up some room. Also, do I need to have electrician double-check the neutral and the screw torque that the burnt neutral was originally piggy-backed with. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Here is a link to pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bxkqitsuq...4X-fFdvSa?dl=0
Power went off on a GFCI circuit. GFCI receptacle would not reset. (Also noticed that it was a 20 amp GFI receptacle on a 15 amp breaker.) Went to replace GFCI with a new one and could not get it working. Testing made it appear that I had an open neutral. Traced back to breaker and found out that the neutral had been doubled up on a screw on the neutral bus bar and had burned or melted. (Thought you were only supposed to have one neutral wire per screw). Neutral was no longer even attached. Went to fix and realized that the neutral bar had no room as it is filled (with neutrals). (Ground bar has at least one open spot). Now, way past my pay-grade of handy grandpa. Time to call in a pro but want to figure out what direction I should go for a low budget solution. I'm just north of Atlanta in Fulton County.
I thought about: Don’t know if a neutral bar add-on extension can be added on to an older panel or how expensive that would be. Or maybe move a circuit to sub-panel tandem circuit to open up some room. Also, do I need to have electrician double-check the neutral and the screw torque that the burnt neutral was originally piggy-backed with. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Here is a link to pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bxkqitsuq...4X-fFdvSa?dl=0
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Based on your pictures...... that looks like a sub panel which means there would be another panel outside with the main breaker in it. It also looks like the two bars on either side of the breakers are connected together. That would mean only white wires should be in those two bars and there should have been an additional bar added for all the grounds including the ground coming from the main panel.
The sub panel is correctly wired with four wires and a separate ground bar.
Based on your pictures...... that looks like a sub panel which means there would be another panel outside with the main breaker in it. It also looks like the two bars on either side of the breakers are connected together. That would mean only white wires should be in those two bars and there should have been an additional bar added for all the grounds including the ground coming from the main panel.
The sub panel is correctly wired with four wires and a separate ground bar.

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Outside is the main shutoff. And inside are the two panels. The original large one in the pictures and then an additional one was added when an area was finished off. The bar on the left is completely filled which I guess is the reason they doubled up on one. The bar on the right looks to have only grounds going into it.
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Do you have any suggestions for my problem of not having enough space on the neutral bar?