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Old 02-24-09, 03:38 PM
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i just got a rebuilt nail gun off of ebay. found a online manual and it says to use 30W non detergent oil and not to use air tool oil. is 30w SAE-30 or can i use 5W-30 or 3 in 1 oil.
 
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Do what? What brand is this baby? Was it made after 1944? Curious.
 
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Oil

Most motor oils today are high detergent. The label must specify "non-detergent". Tell us more. Like Chandler, I am curious.
 
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Old 02-24-09, 05:04 PM
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nail gun is a rebuilt cambell hausfeld framing nailer model NS349000 im going to say its a 07.
 
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Old 02-24-09, 06:10 PM
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Well, Ken, we must learn every day, so here goes. The manual does say use 30W non detergent oil and specifically tells you NOT to use air tool oil. Never heard of that, so that goes in my RAM. Flirty1, use 3 or 4 drops of straight 30W non detergent oil. Buy the quart and it will last you for about 50 years.
 
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Old 02-24-09, 06:44 PM
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can i use sae 30 ND in my lawnmowers. if so i would buy the quart and use in the mower and then whats left save for the nailer. also has anyone used the automatic air tool oilers. you fill it with oil and attach it to the tool and when ever you use the tool a mist of oil enters the machine. they hold a 3-4 day supply.
 
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Old 02-25-09, 05:36 AM
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You will tend to over oil with a FRL attachment. Over oiling will cause oil spots where your nail hits, and is somewhat unsightly. It is always best to use the 3 or 4 drop method. You can use a syringe to withdraw a quantity from the oil can and keep it around for the dropping of oil. Yes, the 30 ND is fine for this application according to the spec sheet.
 
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"can i use sae 30 ND in my lawnmowers."

I wouldn't do that, I don't think.
 
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Oil for Mower

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can i use sae 30 ND in my lawnmowers.
Only if your mower user manual specifies non-detergent oil for the engine.
 
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Old 02-25-09, 03:35 PM
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Randy, Ken, that's what the book says. I googled it and it stood out like a sore thumb. Do not use air tool oil, but ND 30W oil. Surprised me.
 
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It said not to use air tool oil cause it contains solvents that can damage the internal parts.

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makes sense. air tools spin at very high RPM's and a nail gun is just a piston with a very low cyclic rate.
 
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Chandler,

My concern was about using ND oil in the lawn mowers. As Wirepuller38 pointed out, if the mower manufacturer says to use ND, then by all means do what they ask. Otherwise, it would not be wise. I believe most internal combustion engines would like detergent oil to take care of all the combustion by-products. I'm not absolutely certain that all do, however.

As for the nailer, I have seen the ND oil thing at least once in the past. My brother-in-law has a framing nailer that requires ND oil. I don't remember what brand it is. I remember having this very discussion with him when we worked on a project together. I had a pint of tool oil with me but had to go buy some SAE30 ND for his nailer. He didn't have the manual with him and I thought he was crazy. It was his gun, however, so I played along. Now, I feel stupid!
 
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Old 02-26-09, 05:27 PM
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Gotcha, I thought y'all were referring to the gun, not the lawn mower. My lawn mower runs on ND 30, so I guess it is good to look at the manual now and again to make sure you don't mess up.
 
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makes sense. air tools spin at very high RPM's and a nail gun is just a piston with a very low cyclic rate.
you might get away with air tool oil if your nail gun has a rapid fire mode where you hold the trigger and just bounce the nailer on the wood. mine does not.
 
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Im reviving this. something i noticed with this nailer is it tends to miss. what i mean by that is it won't always fire the nail. I pull the trigger and it fires but it won't always produce a nail just a dent where the piston hit i guess. does it need adjusting.
 
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flirty1,

I had this problem once and one of the regulars on this forum told me that I might be trying to operate the nailer with too little pressure. I guess it needs a certain minimum pressure to reset and grab the next nail.

That was my problem. I ran the pressure up just a bit and it started working just fine.
 
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Old 08-05-09, 05:58 AM
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It could be the spring slide that is pushing the nails into the capture point. When it misfires, push on the loader to see if it indexes a nail. Two things. Bent rack of nails or lack of good spray lubrication in the rack area. They never tell you to lubricate that area, but I find with dry nails, it will eat up the metal if you don't use something occasionally in the feed arm.
 
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the nailer uses clipped head nails. i will give the nail tray a good spray with wd-40 and the spring pusher also. it did not seam to advance when i pushed it. PSI is at 90.
 
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Old 08-06-09, 08:35 AM
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Yea..try the lube (if you use wd40..wipe it off well after spraying) and bump yer pressure up some...90psi is normally at the low end for all the nailers I've used. I normally set my comp at the midpoint of the guns specs. If it says 90-120..I'll normally set it about 105 or so.
 
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Old 08-06-09, 03:12 PM
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Yeah, I didn't have my outlet pressure knob pushed in the lock position and during the day today, all my nails started jumping back at me. Found I was running at 80 psi. Quick fix and made sure I locked the knob, this time.
 
 

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